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quaker bill

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52. Alot of misinformation in one post
Tue Dec 4, 2012, 10:38 PM
Dec 2012

Guns, a bogus issue if there ever was one. There simply is no effective drive to regulate guns, anywhere in either party. I might prefer that there was one, but there isn't.

Taxes, It is really this simple, taxes are not punishment, they are the dues we pay to live in a more or less civilized society. It is our patriotic duty to pay them. Flat taxes are bogus. Why does it make sense to collect taxes from people below the poverty line, only to end up giving the money back to subsidize their housing and feed their kids. We are doing this now and it simply does not make sense. Progressive taxation runs back to the very founding of this country. In particular it was intended that taxes be applied to estates to prevent an inherited permanent upper class, or financial royalty. It was sound thinking then and remains sound today.

Properly understood "affirmative action" is simply what it states. You take "affirmative actions" to assure that all opportunities are available equally. It actually means that you post job openings in the usual places, but also take the additional step of specifically posting them in places where minority candidates are more likely to find them. There is nothing in current law that requires that anyone hire less than the most qualified candidate. Quotas are illegal and have been for quite some time. As a hiring supervisor, I have been trained in the fine points of "affirmative action" under current law and precedent.

Viagra is in fact covered for men, so birth control should be covered for women. Simple enough?

Environmental Protection, this is my field professionally. You are spouting an utter crock of nonsense. You can find a handful of earth firsters out there that might vaguely resemble what you describe, but no professional in the field that I have met comes even close. We are generally happy to be allowed to stop people from poisoning each other, and destroying lakes, rivers, and streams. There is still plenty of work to be done there, just to accomplish that.

The right to healthcare is really simple too. Back in the day there were these things called plagues. Lots and lots of people died because they caught bad stuff from those who did not have access to medicine. We are all better off when we are all more healthy. Secondly, there is this damn oath the doctors take where they will treat anyone who shows up sick, whether they can pay or not. When they can't pay, guess what, you do. However, because they have no access to preventive care, they show up at the emergency room really, really sick, and cost a ton of money to help. Now if we start paying for a little bit of preventive care, it happens to turn out that we will save a ton of money. It is simply a pay me a little now, or a lot more later deal. You might think we could go with a "if you can't pay, just die in the gutter" plan, but we won't. The Dr.s will not do it, and besides, stepping over the sick and dying on the way to work will prove politically unpopular.

The whole "fast and furious" conspiracy is right wing fantasy land bs. Once again, there is no effective plan or movement to regulate guns in either party, it does not exist.

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Why should I vote Democratic? [View all] HonEur12 Dec 2012 OP
Did you vote for Mitt Romney? ProSense Dec 2012 #1
No. HonEur12 Dec 2012 #2
Did you vote for President Obama? n/t ProSense Dec 2012 #3
Yes. HonEur12 Dec 2012 #10
Eureka! ProSense Dec 2012 #13
If you're being sincere about voting for President Obama, you're off to a great start. nt rDigital Dec 2012 #14
Less than a week! GeorgeGist Dec 2012 #4
It's Democratic n/t malaise Dec 2012 #5
Well: ProSense Dec 2012 #6
Bwaaaaaaaaaaah hahahaha malaise Dec 2012 #25
Thank you n/t HonEur12 Dec 2012 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Dec 2012 #8
Come on BainsBane Dec 2012 #11
As a vet you've earned the nation's respect BainsBane Dec 2012 #9
Good points HonEur12 Dec 2012 #15
"Gun people", Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #29
And that should be clear ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #31
yeah, Obama has been great business for the gun companies BainsBane Dec 2012 #34
If you ask me most "gun people" Moses2SandyKoufax Dec 2012 #35
Obama hasn't shown any desire to take away gun right. His one act in this area was to bluestate10 Dec 2012 #56
Ill bite: You should vote Democratic because the alternative rDigital Dec 2012 #12
Don't take this the wrong way... Kalidurga Dec 2012 #16
healthcare BainsBane Dec 2012 #17
I suggest you take time to do some critical thinking upaloopa Dec 2012 #18
Its been a long time HonEur12 Dec 2012 #24
That's the purpose of critical thinking. upaloopa Dec 2012 #30
A good source for the healthcare law BainsBane Dec 2012 #45
The purpose of the health care law is to reduce costs in the system and save the Government bluestate10 Dec 2012 #57
Hello.... Sekhmets Daughter Dec 2012 #19
Well, stick around and you can learn a lot without anyone spoon-feeding you Hekate Dec 2012 #20
I knew it wasn't the best approach HonEur12 Dec 2012 #27
What's wrong with the OP's approach? democrattotheend Dec 2012 #50
In order: geek tragedy Dec 2012 #21
birthcontrol BainsBane Dec 2012 #22
You are the only person who can answer that. Use the web to gather information and educate yourself. geckosfeet Dec 2012 #23
You are young, but remember with age comes wisdom Bandit Dec 2012 #26
Because our side doesn't have a Glenn Beck or a Rush Limbaugh. We are sane & rational, they are JaneyVee Dec 2012 #28
Your concern is noted krawhitham Dec 2012 #32
Affirmative action BainsBane Dec 2012 #33
Some elite schools are rejecting Asians in favor of Whites and other races, because bluestate10 Dec 2012 #58
point by point, on the off chance you are not a troll... magical thyme Dec 2012 #36
Ask yourself ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #37
no huts in the jungles BainsBane Dec 2012 #38
An answer to some of your questions. Selatius Dec 2012 #39
Fast and Furious BainsBane Dec 2012 #40
You shouldn't... You are a Republican. XRubicon Dec 2012 #41
who voted for Obama BainsBane Dec 2012 #43
thank you HonEur12 Dec 2012 #46
Maybe you could summarize what you learned here XRubicon Dec 2012 #48
To start... HonEur12 Dec 2012 #62
I don't even want to know how Glenn Beck frames birth control. Ruby the Liberal Dec 2012 #65
He is a republican who is trying to have dialog. I think his views are mis-directed, but bluestate10 Dec 2012 #59
Point by point Warpy Dec 2012 #42
I don't care too much about guns hfojvt Dec 2012 #44
This is very good. HonEur12 Dec 2012 #47
it's not about making it a better business hfojvt Dec 2012 #53
I learned in college that businesses only pay taxes on gross income. bluestate10 Dec 2012 #60
I think you probablty meant "net" income hfojvt Dec 2012 #64
Sir, 1% of this country's population controls 40% of its wealth (and 10% controls coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #49
My #1 issue is abortion rights, also. So I will just say this. If your girlfriend (who may have forestpath Dec 2012 #51
Alot of misinformation in one post quaker bill Dec 2012 #52
From where you come from tama Dec 2012 #54
My response to each of your points. bluestate10 Dec 2012 #55
Kick Flabbergasted Dec 2012 #61
the election was a month ago, dude arely staircase Dec 2012 #63
This message was self-deleted by its author Ruby the Liberal Dec 2012 #66
You should not vote for Democrats. JoePhilly Dec 2012 #67
Very good points. HonEur12 Dec 2012 #68
A real response would go point by point, as I did. JoePhilly Dec 2012 #70
Why is it "punishment" to pay higher taxes when you earn more? treestar Dec 2012 #69
Sigh. HughBeaumont Dec 2012 #71
So as you are pushing RW memes why should we not regard you as a troll? intaglio Dec 2012 #72
You've got a lot to learn, but I hope you do. Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2012 #73
Legalize Lonnie Anderson's Hair. H2O Man Dec 2012 #74
Read the 1956 Republican Party Platform. raouldukelives Dec 2012 #75
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