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67. Doing nothing will still reduce gun violence

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 10:59 PM

Dec 2012

that is the problem you face. Gun violence has fallen to historic lows and still falling.

"It is not falling fast enough" is not going to rally the troops like I think you want.

We have a crime problem plus a mental health problem.

Reforming the criminal justice system to focus on violent offenders plus single payer health care will do more to reduce gun violence then any of your gun grabbing fantasies. And they are more achievable.

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Costas: "Mistake" To Give Anti-Gun Commentary During Football Game [View all] ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 OP

Never apologize for telling the truth. nt Deep13 Dec 2012 #1

He just wasn't prepared for the rabid, spittle-flinging, unglued backlash. nt Lex Dec 2012 #2

Neither was Limbaugh, who was rightfully terminated ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #10

CNN did not hire Costas to replace Larry King because he didn't want to report JI7 Dec 2012 #3

Tripe ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #7

he could have been like Charlie Rose JI7 Dec 2012 #15

Not when the NRA hates controversy as much as it does ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #17

Nothing drives the gun psychos off the deep end... 99Forever Dec 2012 #4

I don't know, but it makes the moderates pissed. nt rDigital Dec 2012 #60

Good one theHandpuppet Dec 2012 #72

And now Wayne's flock of sheep is upset. TheCowsCameHome Dec 2012 #5

Why do so many of you hate guns on this board in GD ? former-republican Dec 2012 #6

Perhaps because gun people lie about statistics all the time... cthulu2016 Dec 2012 #9

In 2011 it was 40% of Dems that own guns hack89 Dec 2012 #24

Gallup? The same reliable Gallup organization that predicted that Romney would will over Obama? AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #34

So what better number do you have? nt hack89 Dec 2012 #45

Thank you for the invitation but, unlike Gallup, I don't just make up numbers. AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #50

I didn't ask you to make up anything hack89 Dec 2012 #52

In our country, where there is still some freedom, no one knows. Polsters make up stuff, but AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #57

The only reason for the President to ignore gun control hack89 Dec 2012 #59

What we need is crime control. We need more control over criminals that use guns, not more control AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #64

The only statistic I know for SURE is that I own one. Or more. Bake Dec 2012 #35

"Filthy Bagginses it wants to steal" Shivering Jemmy Dec 2012 #66

Lord of the Rings allusions only prove somebody is a geek. Bake Dec 2012 #68

Who cares? Shivering Jemmy Dec 2012 #70

Why are so many gun nuts alcoholics and wife beaters? SecularMotion Dec 2012 #11

Like I said a feeding frenzy , HA HA former-republican Dec 2012 #13

Who the hell told you the vast majority of Democrats own guns? HERVEPA Dec 2012 #16

Yes, gun fanatics enjoy making things up. DanTex Dec 2012 #18

They do in my state , have you checked yours former-republican Dec 2012 #20

It is only 40% of Dems that own guns hack89 Dec 2012 #25

Actually, you are wrong again. DanTex Dec 2012 #33

So give me a better number hack89 Dec 2012 #48

Pulling what out of my butt? DanTex Dec 2012 #53

Your Dem wife - Repuke husband deflection hack89 Dec 2012 #54

It's not a deflection, it's actually what the poll asked. DanTex Dec 2012 #58

Keep up the good fight hack89 Dec 2012 #62

LGBT rights seemed to be an uphill fight just a decade ago. DanTex Dec 2012 #65

Doing nothing will still reduce gun violence hack89 Dec 2012 #67

That's like saying that Jim Crow laws were OK because it was better than slavery. DanTex Dec 2012 #69

No - I am saying your focus is completely wrong hack89 Dec 2012 #71

Gallup is an unreliable organization which predicted that Romeny would beat Obama: AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #36

When it comes to guns the General Social Survey is the most reliable estimate. DanTex Dec 2012 #39

Look, when it comes to representations from a poll that can actually be shown to not be true, such AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #41

Given that graph hack89 Dec 2012 #51

So give me a better number. nt hack89 Dec 2012 #49

Can I like cars and still be in favor of speed limits and traffic lights? nt Deep13 Dec 2012 #23

I don't think he will pay anything sarisataka Dec 2012 #8

NFL hates controversy with a passion ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #12

Don't want to cut revenues sarisataka Dec 2012 #26

It is always about the benjamins ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #32

Spam deleted by gkhouston (MIR Team) kaspar411 Dec 2012 #14

No matter what, this is a dead issue davidn3600 Dec 2012 #19

Translation: he was probably threatened by psycho gun nuts and/or the NRA. Initech Dec 2012 #21

More likely the NFL who hate controversy of any kind ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #22

They certainly put up with the replacement controversy long enough. sadbear Dec 2012 #46

It is not his job to piss off paying customers hack89 Dec 2012 #27

And those who can't venture out of the house without a gun. We get your annoyance. Hoyt Dec 2012 #30

His problem at this point is the NFL not the NRA ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #38

He'll handle it. Hoyt Dec 2012 #40

We shall see ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #42

I don't carry in public hack89 Dec 2012 #44

He should have stuck to his guns on it. Ruby the Liberal Dec 2012 #28

I see what ya did there TDale313 Dec 2012 #29

I'm surprised that's there's more uproar over his commentary than there being a game to give it at REP Dec 2012 #31

Are on-air commentators allowed to drink while on the job? Could that have been his problem? AnotherMcIntosh Dec 2012 #37

Wow! No one must say anything disparaging about firearms anytime, huh? sadbear Dec 2012 #43

When your golden goose is the NFL, it is the smart thing to avoid controversy ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #47

Mr. Costas, welcome to our club! aaaaaa5a Dec 2012 #55

I call BS DonCoquixote Dec 2012 #56

He chose poorly. aikoaiko Dec 2012 #61

I don't think it was a mistake Renew Deal Dec 2012 #63

And it looks like Bob Costas will be vindicated, and all his detractors are looking like fools now. Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #73

Stalking old posts again I see ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #74

Actually, nothing was going to happen to Bob Costas. Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #75