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In reply to the discussion: "Why I won't be cheering for old Notre Dame" [View all]Larkspur
(12,804 posts)31. Have we learned nothing from the Duke Lacrosse scandal?
Notre Dame Football: The Lizzy Seeberg Case and Poor Reporting
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The Chicago Tribune was the first to bring the story to light, seeking comment from Brian Kelly several times about the incident. And, according to David Haugh of the Tribune, the player should be removed from the playing field.
Per Haugh: "A guy who can discipline a player for missing a meeting should have the autonomy to bench a player accused of what could be a felony in the real world. The player is innocent until proven guilty, to be sure. But football coaches, especially those of the most famous college football program in America, rarely deal in due process."
Does that make sense to anyone?
"The player is innocent until proven guilty... but football coaches rarely deal in due process."
So he is presumed innocent but coaches don't always follow that logic. So he should be singled out and suspended, presumed guilty until the investigation's facts come to light?
Have we learned nothing from the Duke Lacrosse scandal?
What happened to innocent until proven guilty?
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And were ND and authorities covering up the sexual assualt or following the law on privacy...
Haugh goes on to refer to Kelly's tone in his press conference; the fact that the University and police have kept the investigation private (bound by federal law), and Notre Dame having "lost the benefit of the doubt when it sent [Declan] Sullivan up in a scissors lift on an extraordinarily windy day" as his evidence that the university is doing something wrong and involved in a cover up.
It's just astonishing reporting from one of the traditionally sound newspapers out of Chicago.
The facts are starting to come out in the case, but will certainly be few in number until the investigation is complete. St. Joseph County Police and their SVUboth investigating the case with the ND policewere notified of the alleged sexual assault (Haugh stated they were unaware, which was incorrect).
And as noted above, Notre Dame is bound by the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act (FERPA) which prohibits universities from publicly discussing specific disciplinary cases.
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Gee I remember when the University of Alabama allowed boosters to provide prostitutes for
Larkspur
Dec 2012
#1
"Depression is a main cause of suicide" And how do you even know this young
yellowcanine
Dec 2012
#7
There was no court of law because there were no charges. Pathetic yourself.
yellowcanine
Dec 2012
#17
She clearly researched both cases. It was not a shoddy hit piece. Name one incorrect statement in
yellowcanine
Dec 2012
#45
The alleged rape was the second victim. Seeberg did not allege rape. You are obfuscating by
yellowcanine
Dec 2012
#44
"SOME shoddy writers" But not this writer (Melinda). So why bring it up here?
yellowcanine
Dec 2012
#51
Those issues were all addressed but ND haters want a scandal even if there isn't one
Larkspur
Dec 2012
#38
"Those issues were all addressed...." And why then are ND officials conducting a whispering
yellowcanine
Dec 2012
#43
Again with the assertions but not one example of an inaccurate statement in this particular column.
yellowcanine
Dec 2012
#54
Because school sports have been a sacred cow in this country for generations.
radicalliberal
Dec 2012
#57
It wasn't rape. It was investigated by the county prosecutor and no charges filed.
Mr. Blue Sky
Dec 2012
#41
There were two alleged victims. One was sexual assault. The other was rape. Why do ND boosters
yellowcanine
Dec 2012
#42