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raouldukelives

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49. Funny how the least Christian of environments tend to have the most outspoken ones.

Wed Dec 5, 2012, 08:08 PM

Dec 2012

As applied to the military and the corporate world at least. If you agree to help the US government kill people who are a nuisance to its goals we will give you money and gifts.
And of course in the corporate world all the words of Jesus Christ fall on deaf ears M-F 9-5 but they line up to hear the word on Sundays.
"Howdy. I'm a super Christian businessman. I'll profit off slave labor in third world countries where children play in chemicals and women burn alive in sweatshops. I then use those profits to support Christian outreach in my local community. God bless."

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West Point cadet drops out to protest influence of fundamentalist Christianity [View all] kpete Dec 2012 OP

This is a growing problem in the military and I hope we can overcome it in time. LiberalLoner Dec 2012 #1

What we have is a praetorian guard nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #7

I have often argued that exact point. Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #15

What you said. cliffordu Dec 2012 #27

Jackpine, you lived it, yet you still fail history. Hells Liberal Dec 2012 #60

I think the course of the war was altered by the antiwar movement, Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #63

You were part of Oleo Strut? Unknown Beatle Dec 2012 #70

I was at Hood in late '68 for my last 6 months after Nam. Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #72

now we just have an economic draft. a universal draft had this benefit: if things got too extreme, HiPointDem Dec 2012 #88

I agree - A universal draft into public service would democratize the military. Thunderbeast Dec 2012 #17

FWIW, gejohnston Dec 2012 #26

+1 LiberalLoner Dec 2012 #35

Let's start with understanding how the military is funded jmowreader Dec 2012 #41

I would oppose a draft just on the principle of it. Hells Liberal Dec 2012 #61

Actually you are wrong nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #89

You don't think draftees wouldn't be subject to the same bullshit? TheMadMonk Dec 2012 #23

More brilliant people than me have described what happens nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #28

I wish I could recommend this post. SO true. It is a slippery slope we are headed down loudsue Dec 2012 #58

"Once proud"? "Becomes"? I think one can safely argue... TheMadMonk Dec 2012 #82

Then off to a coup we go nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #85

Amen MadMonk!!! Testify Brother!!! Hells Liberal Dec 2012 #62

Well - it's no wonder they're allergic to the D-word Plucketeer Dec 2012 #24

I agree and we should draft women as well as men. mulsh Dec 2012 #37

Oh no doubt, a modern day draft includes both genders. nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #38

with absolutely NO EXCEPTIONS OR DEFERMENTS Raster Dec 2012 #78

I can see one nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #91

Nadin, what is a "butter bar"? Raster Dec 2012 #93

Second Liutenenat nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #95

That Won't Fix What is Going on in the Officer Corps AndyTiedye Dec 2012 #47

Read this nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #74

If We Had a Draft, a Whole Generation Would Have been Subject to this Forced Fundie indoctrination AndyTiedye Dec 2012 #75

If you believe that family members nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #87

not all paths to comission are through West Point pasto76 Dec 2012 #55

True, but ring knockers make the majority nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #73

He shouldn't have to give up his career Politicalboi Dec 2012 #33

The only reason in my mind it matters nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #39

It's inspiring that he is so committed to integrity and closeupready Dec 2012 #2

You need to visit the 'Military Religious Freedom Foundation' site.They keep an eye on the problem: Are_grits_groceries Dec 2012 #3

yes, yes, yes duhneece Dec 2012 #4

Agreed. I watched the founder of MRFF, Mikey Weinstein, on C-Span & what he had to say scared whathehell Dec 2012 #54

There is a great interview with Michael "Mikey" Weinstein, the founder ChachaCha Dec 2012 #67

K&R for the Military Religious Freedom Foundation. They do great work. Overseas Dec 2012 #68

Christian Evangelist = American Taliban Rockyj Dec 2012 #5

Ditto. 12AngryBorneoWildmen Dec 2012 #6

By realising that there is no negotiating with extremists. TheMadMonk Dec 2012 #30

From what I've seen, the Air Force Academy is even worse DefenseLawyer Dec 2012 #8

It is worse jmowreader Dec 2012 #43

The Air Force Academy ought to be disbanded. hunter Dec 2012 #66

+1 uponit7771 Dec 2012 #76

Onward Christian soldiers and airmen .......... all you heathens out. Smilo Dec 2012 #9

BACK IN 1970 ROBROX Dec 2012 #10

I thought it was about a cadet who was trying to preach in class SaveAmerica Dec 2012 #11

Admire him. Unfortunately, he's just the kind of person we do need in West Point. Baitball Blogger Dec 2012 #12

The Rapture Reich is Just Like Rust triplepoint Dec 2012 #13

At West Point? KamaAina Dec 2012 #14

Yeah it seems the fundie nutjobs have taken over all our military institutions. Initech Dec 2012 #18

Swearing to uphold the constitution and then letting religious nuts run things. Initech Dec 2012 #16

Wasn't there a gay marriage that was recently held in the West Point chapel? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2012 #19

"Go to Sunday Service, or get KP Duty" HockeyMom Dec 2012 #20

there are quite a few Wiccans in the Air Force gejohnston Dec 2012 #31

Yes, we do hold services on Saturdays sakabatou Dec 2012 #65

Purge sulphurdunn Dec 2012 #21

My son n law that is a major marlakay Dec 2012 #22

Want more info on this?? Here ya go! cliffordu Dec 2012 #25

"Spiritual Fitness" DemoTex Dec 2012 #29

Pushed by people like Patraeus nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #32

My son, a former Marine (8 years) said the proselytizing by fundamentalist Christians stanwyck Dec 2012 #34

Some are more sensitive to it than others... Lightbulb_on Dec 2012 #36

Question for others: does *anyone* believe that statement? Occulus Dec 2012 #46

This is not complicated stuff. sulphurdunn Dec 2012 #50

100% agree. Straight and to the point. Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2012 #52

You're kidding right? tia uponit7771 Dec 2012 #77

Nope... Lightbulb_on Dec 2012 #79

Did you go to West Point? sulphurdunn Dec 2012 #80

No... Lightbulb_on Dec 2012 #81

In 1969 sulphurdunn Dec 2012 #83

I would likely have a problem with that as well.. Lightbulb_on Dec 2012 #84

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Dec 2012 #40

Downward Xtian Soldiers - marching to ChristoFascism Berlum Dec 2012 #42

Imbalance of power felix_numinous Dec 2012 #44

How about considering the closing of all military academies paid for by the government? olegramps Dec 2012 #45

The military trains both lawyers and doctors nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #90

That only reinforces my point. Their education is paid for and then they leave the service. olegramps Dec 2012 #92

A captain/ major nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #94

Woulda thought the other side would be leaving in protest dixiegrrrrl Dec 2012 #48

Funny how the least Christian of environments tend to have the most outspoken ones. raouldukelives Dec 2012 #49

Very funny, in a very dark, sad way. Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2012 #53

The ends justify the means Tsiyu Dec 2012 #96

k&r ! trailmonkee Dec 2012 #51

Onward Christian soldiers, mightily proselyting their prey with the fanaticism indepat Dec 2012 #56

Looks kind of like some people have more of a need for strong external support for values they say patrice Dec 2012 #57

There was an incredible Harper's article on the AF Academy a few years back. DirkGently Dec 2012 #59

The Military Was Not Established For The Defense Of Only Christians. YOHABLO Dec 2012 #64

Excellent article on the crusade for a Christian military by Jeff Sharlet Overseas Dec 2012 #69

Thanks GW. sarchasm Dec 2012 #71

"These men and women are criminals" HiPointDem Dec 2012 #86