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In reply to the discussion: "President Barack Obama has signed a death knell for the Bill of Rights." [View all]AnotherMcIntosh
(11,064 posts)At the very least, this would appear to violate the Fifth Amendment.
Did the ABA speak up much about Bush's wholesale spying upon all Americans with the willing assistance of most of the telecoms? At the very least, this would appear to violate the Fourth Amendment.
Although some members of the ABA have expressed concern about the loss of protected rights or the rights that were supposed to be protected under the Constitution, there's not been much noise from the ABA.
What have the ABA members been doing? For the most part, they've been focusing more time engaging in clock-watching and collecting billable hours. If you are a member of the ABA, you know that some ABA members find billable hours so important in their lives that they are willing to engage in double billing (i.e., separately billing two or more clients for the same hour of work), engaging in billing for unnecessary work, etc. For them, the billiable hour is much more important than the loss of even the fig leaf of the Constitution which is supposed to be respected by governmental officials to protect our civil rights.
If you really believe that the ABA as a collective body will speak up to object to the loss of civil rights, you should be able to provide links to ABA articles on their web site in which took the official position that they are opposed to the actions which have resulted in the loss of civil rights such as the ones identified above.
In the absence of such links, it would be fair to say that you may have a belief or gut-instinct but you don't have any factual support for your belief that "the ABA would have had something to say about it."