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graham4anything

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27. As I now ONLY watch Rev. Al Sharpton on MSNBC and none of the others...
Thu Dec 6, 2012, 12:23 AM
Dec 2012

the downfall will be ratings, ratings, ratings being so low

all of political talk chat stations are not doing well, when compared to say sports, shows, movies, etc.
(yes MSNBC is rising compared to other political but still total ratings suck for all)
in this day of corporate profit wanting, soon enough it will change

But as I posit'd the other day

With the coming change in formats that inevitably will happen, we must be prepared that with the day we cheer Fox for no longer being here, the other stations will also change

The shareholders of Fox will demand the change when either ratings, or Murdoch himself retires, and which point his sons/family/shareholders will not want to continue the vanity production

BUT at the same time, CNN and MSNBC might also switch too.

One can't just snap fingers and get rid of it.

What I personally would like to see happen is the following-
have a station where Rev. Al and Rachel and Ed and some of the others, also are on with some of the rightwing awipes BUT the difference being that each is allowed the total freedom they have now.
The difference of course is that now Rev. Al in the SAME place can immediately respond TO THE SAME listeners the lies that say Rush or Sean spew forth

the propaganda machine would not be able to be an echo chamber and would not get away with it


IF just Fox were to leave, what will happen is CNN would see an opening and turn hard right.

And then there is the radio shows- for the most part, nationwide, there is only rightwing radio talk, and its not very popular rating wise, HOWEVER- it does own the minute nationwide news
which someone driving state to state to state hears and is brainwashed by

Just like the TV placement Fox buys for hotels, bars, restuarant chains, diners, etc.

The fairness act being returned would be good

But it would mean going backward and its very hard as the right would scream censorship

but it should happen naturally not forced
but the law of unintended consequences might also take the good with the bad

so be prepared

(As I now only watch Rev. Al Sharpton daily, I would not much care about the others.
Not after the reactions of Rachel and Ed after the first debate. Who needs Fox when you had
the two hysterical wrong reactions to that debate? They aided and abetted the rightwing spin of that debate that was uncalled for.)



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the problem is that fokkks is cable.... not broadcast oldhippydude Dec 2012 #1
Then isn't it time we GAVE the FCC jurisdiction? Occulus Dec 2012 #10
If we did that... actslikeacarrot Dec 2012 #14
The problem with that mentality is that Occulus Dec 2012 #16
The courts have held that cable has first amendment rights closer to those of newspapers than onenote Dec 2012 #43
As long as you're prepared for a Republican FCC to do the same thing to MSNBC or Current... brooklynite Dec 2012 #77
I don't care if it's cable, sat or rabbit ears.. a lie is a lie, slander is slander n/m Rosco T. Dec 2012 #23
Fox Radio, isn't that part of the FCC? LeftInTX Dec 2012 #39
I get them delivered through the air at my house. Dish TV. Vincardog Dec 2012 #51
Imagine what society would be like if we replaced all RW media with educational programming instead JaneyVee Dec 2012 #2
Imagine what society would be like if the Constitution allowed the government to make those onenote Dec 2012 #44
In contrast to FoX Propaganda Channel pbrower2a Dec 2012 #83
I haven't watched Fox News in about 10 years. I suggest you do the same. virgogal Dec 2012 #3
Consider this choir member preached. Occulus Dec 2012 #11
Normally I agree, but AlreadyDoneThat Dec 2012 #53
Welcome to DU! hrmjustin Dec 2012 #57
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwnnnn......... Iggy Dec 2012 #4
One election is not proof of any final and irrevocable undoing of Occulus Dec 2012 #13
Agreed, However Iggy Dec 2012 #33
Preaching to the choir is a good analogy, but AlreadyDoneThat Dec 2012 #54
Fox News has been propagandizing for 30 years? onenote Dec 2012 #45
You, too. Occulus Dec 2012 #60
Do You Actually Look At Their Ratings? ProfessorGAC Dec 2012 #55
I said "and its ilk" Occulus Dec 2012 #59
Oh yeah? rainin Dec 2012 #80
Good idea. We could reinstate the Sedition Act from 1798 so government can jody Dec 2012 #5
Are you defending Foxnews? hrmjustin Dec 2012 #9
They are not on the air ... oldhippie Dec 2012 #18
I mean like complaints and boycotts. Sorry for not being clearer. hrmjustin Dec 2012 #19
Actually jody is defending freedom AlexSatan Dec 2012 #36
Point taken! hrmjustin Dec 2012 #40
The Sedition Act has fuck-all to do with the OP Occulus Dec 2012 #15
Please read the Sedition Act. OP has every thing to do with it because the OP wants to punish jody Dec 2012 #42
results of jury service naaman fletcher Dec 2012 #47
Recently a post said of me "You are a disgusting, sick person." I alerted and jody Dec 2012 #49
If you are wishing for legislation like Canada and the UK former9thward Dec 2012 #6
untrue Rosco T. Dec 2012 #25
Nope. former9thward Dec 2012 #35
yes samsingh Dec 2012 #7
My repuke friends support "the rules" socialindependocrat Dec 2012 #8
Make them put up a truth ticker. sarcasmo Dec 2012 #12
Yes, news as a vehicle to keep the populace informed Cleita Dec 2012 #17
I have daydreamed trying to organize 20M people to each buy $50 stock & then proxy votes Turn CO Blue Dec 2012 #20
That is how to do it AlexSatan Dec 2012 #37
We must collectively work very hard mick063 Dec 2012 #21
I agree. Cable or no, it's a different animal when they are causing the whole country to have loudsue Dec 2012 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author Jonny Dec 2012 #24
Hair Splitting Jonny Dec 2012 #26
So you would have been okay with Nixon's prosecution of the New York Times onenote Dec 2012 #46
As I now ONLY watch Rev. Al Sharpton on MSNBC and none of the others... graham4anything Dec 2012 #27
Media Matters points the lies out at least ErikJ Dec 2012 #28
Opinions Are One Thing, Facts Another colsohlibgal Dec 2012 #29
splendid idea jeanlibny594283 Dec 2012 #30
Canada FAUX is an "Entertainment Network" IF ya' ACT like clowns, it's just truth in advertising. Tigress DEM Dec 2012 #31
Once a person learns what propaganda is they stop watching MSMedia... just1voice Dec 2012 #32
They're Already Starting To Take Themselves Down...and the Rushpublicans with them... KharmaTrain Dec 2012 #34
If you see them on in a doctor's or dentist's office, complain to the staff LeftInTX Dec 2012 #38
Something similar would fill the void. Apparently there is a market for their point of view. Throd Dec 2012 #41
If I say what I want to say, I probably be alerted Great Caesars Ghost Dec 2012 #48
Apparently few have read the Sedition Act so I post it below. jody Dec 2012 #50
So, they were against it and so are you against charges of (libel) sedition, I'm guessing. freshwest Dec 2012 #82
I support nullification as Jefferson and Madison defined it in their KY & VA resolutions. nt jody Dec 2012 #85
As far as states' rights go, that interpretation has been abused to deny human rights.. freshwest Dec 2012 #86
This is how we do it. We put a law in place like Canada has. Cleita Dec 2012 #52
Sun News has been available in Canada since April 2011 onenote Dec 2012 #62
Perhaps, but because the other stations must mind regulations according to their license, it keeps Cleita Dec 2012 #63
The Wikipedia entry you cite confirms everything I wrote onenote Dec 2012 #65
If you think you are right then you think you are right. Cleita Dec 2012 #67
Here's an example of how Sun News doesn't seem to be restrained by Canadian law onenote Dec 2012 #68
Yes, but the fact is they aren't taken seriously because they aren't dominating the whole Cleita Dec 2012 #69
Fox News isn't remotely the dominant news source for the entire country. onenote Dec 2012 #71
If you believe that you aren't paying attention. Cleita Dec 2012 #72
You need to get out more onenote Dec 2012 #73
Ann Coulter as despicable as she is much smarter than Jonah Goldberg, Cleita Dec 2012 #74
btw I looked up your link. Cleita Dec 2012 #75
Do you think you can get away with just making stuff up? onenote Dec 2012 #78
I'm not the person making stuff up here and although I do respect the Pew Center, Cleita Dec 2012 #79
You really are something else. onenote Dec 2012 #84
The best way to take down Faux, I believe AlreadyDoneThat Dec 2012 #56
a decade overdue upi402 Dec 2012 #58
Fox is only more blatant than the others KurtNYC Dec 2012 #61
I heard a commercial on the radio that Fox News is the only radio news station in SW Florida. Michigan Alum Dec 2012 #64
I would like to see this happen but the only way we can do it is through their advertisers like jwirr Dec 2012 #66
Yep. The best way is to underthematrix Dec 2012 #76
what is an example of something they have said or done in the past that you believe arely staircase Dec 2012 #70
I haven't even owned a TV in a decade. brokechris Dec 2012 #81
Makes Me Sad When I See The Shortsightedness Of This NeedleCast Dec 2012 #87
I am pro-choice on this issue. I don't like Fox, so I choose not to watch it. Nye Bevan Dec 2012 #88
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