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103. Several people I know who have carry permits have stopped an attack from a person armed ...
Thu Dec 6, 2012, 01:59 AM
Dec 2012

with a knife. In all cases the attack ended when my friends showed they were armed. The attacker probably realized that bringing a knife to a gun fight is a bad plan. A concealed handgun can easily stop a large rapist who plans to attack a small female.

Obviously the best tactic to avoid being in a dangerous situation is to not be there. That can involve using something called "situational awareness." Most people walk around with a cell phone glued to their ear and consequently are targets for predators. Merely being aware of your surroundings and alert may cause a dangerous individual to pick a different victim.

Of course situational awareness is no 100% guarantee against being a victim. If you find yourself facing an armed individual it wise to realize that in most cases your attacker is using the weapon to cause you to comply with his desires. If all he wants is your money it is best to simply give him your wallet. You may be a martial arts expert with the skill necessary to disarm him or you may be carrying your own legal weapon, however you should be aware that replacing your health is far more difficult than replacing your money, your ID and your credit cards.

But in a few instances you may realize that your attacker is unstable and extremely aggressive and there is an excellent chance that he plans to send you to the hospital for an extended stay or put you six feet under even after you give up your wallet. In such a situation it is worth using your martial arts skills or your weapon as you have little to lose by doing so.

I do see your point about having your weapon in your hand. I have a concealed weapons permit and I carry a snub nosed .38 caliber revolver in my pants pocket. Fortunately I have never had a reason to draw my weapon but there have been a couple of times where my situational awareness alerted me and I found myself in a potentially dangerous situation. I placed my hand in my pocket on the revolver and was ready to draw it and shoot an attacker if TRULY necessary.

One time I was in a store late at night and I thought the two other guys in the store at the same time could have been planning to rob the clerk. (This store was in a somewhat dangerous area of Tampa and had been robbed in the past.)

I backed up couple of yards and observed the situation with my hand in my pocket. One of the two guys was at the counter and asked me if I wished to check out before him. I politely refused. He then discovered he had left his wallet in his car and left to get it. He seemed somewhat surprised that I didn't check out during the four or five minutes it took him to return. He decided to pay for his purchases and left with his buddy. I stayed around for another ten minutes talking to the clerk and then left. I often stopped at that store on my way to work on the graveyard shift to buy a pack of cigars and frequently had a friendly conversation with the clerk. That night I was late to work by fifteen minutes but since I was the shift supervisor I didn't get any grief for not being on time.

Now I am not a cop or a vigilante and I don't go looking for trouble. Had the two guys actually pulled weapons and robbed the store I would have simply observed and memorized important details about their appearances to tell to the police. If they would have turned violent, I would have drawn my weapon and attempted to stop them. (I personally do not plan to ever pull my revolver unless I have a legitimate reason to use it and it will come out smoking. To show that you have a weapon can stop an attack but can also escalate the situation unnecessarily.)











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+1000 dballance Dec 2012 #1
Most people are in complete agreement with Bob. It doesn't really matter what Fox has to say. Walk away Dec 2012 #2
i agree MrDiaz Dec 2012 #4
I get a headache thinking about the NRA and this "need" and God-given right to have a gun. wake.up.america Dec 2012 #9
i have a gun because MrDiaz Dec 2012 #10
So.... Plucketeer Dec 2012 #14
so you think MrDiaz Dec 2012 #18
When I think of all the fascist gun nuts in America, JEB Dec 2012 #40
Very few of those people out there... cherokeeprogressive Dec 2012 #42
Ever go to agun show? JEB Dec 2012 #47
As a percentage of gun owners, a very small percentage. cherokeeprogressive Dec 2012 #61
Probably true but JEB Dec 2012 #68
Me too Big Gay Al Dec 2012 #73
I'm not a gun show fan either. nt rDigital Dec 2012 #79
that is MrDiaz Dec 2012 #51
I never said anything about anybody showing off guns. JEB Dec 2012 #54
Man, you make me wonder how in the hell I survived to 60 without A GUN? Whovian Dec 2012 #60
OK MrDiaz Dec 2012 #63
Sorry, was I not speaking clearly? Whovian Dec 2012 #67
Alright MrDiaz Dec 2012 #69
+1 proud2BlibKansan Dec 2012 #27
Nirvana Fallacy. rDigital Dec 2012 #78
Last night - on the Young Turks - you should watch it.... Plucketeer Dec 2012 #96
Several people I know who have carry permits have stopped an attack from a person armed ... spin Dec 2012 #103
You can theorize any scenario Plucketeer Dec 2012 #104
A "WELL ORGANIZED MILITIA" ??? ... spin Dec 2012 #106
Actually, the God-given right Fla_Democrat Dec 2012 #25
Precisely. nt rDigital Dec 2012 #80
the gun made it way too easy. barbtries Dec 2012 #13
There's an emotional and physical detachment from firing a gun sadbear Dec 2012 #15
I totally agree. dotymed Dec 2012 #21
A breath of fresh air. Thank you for your contribution to his thread. nt rDigital Dec 2012 #82
Are you sure about that. Do you have experience in these matters? nt rDigital Dec 2012 #81
Yup! Plucketeer Dec 2012 #16
OJ simpson MrDiaz Dec 2012 #20
well you got me there. barbtries Dec 2012 #30
There are 169 murders per week with guns or 8775 in 2010 neverforget Dec 2012 #70
More perspective. rDigital Dec 2012 #85
An objects availability and its intended use must also be taken into account. neverforget Dec 2012 #99
Good point. I appreciate the perspective. nt rDigital Dec 2012 #100
I think he is wrong also Mojorabbit Dec 2012 #17
See Chris Benoit... rDigital Dec 2012 #86
OJ!!! I just got NRA BINGO! morningfog Dec 2012 #22
yeah right heaven05 Dec 2012 #34
Surging gun sales a reaction to "Obama's gonna take our guns!" craziness Patiod Dec 2012 #38
Gun sales are up more and more every year justanidea Dec 2012 #29
You haven't been paying attention hack89 Dec 2012 #57
comment on Costas: Remeber when he refused to sit in for Larry King rurallib Dec 2012 #3
he at least has some standards Flashmann Dec 2012 #5
Anybody, Costas and Wayne Pierre alike, can be and are criticized for their views on gun control. aikoaiko Dec 2012 #6
I am wondering what the fallout will be for Costas ProgressiveProfessor Dec 2012 #7
Love the DChicks because they told the truth, just like Costas. Will a bunch of right wingers turn Hoyt Dec 2012 #23
Or, keeping it in the context of sports... Dr. Strange Dec 2012 #46
Millions! Killed millions! lonestarnot Dec 2012 #8
murder/suicide yesterday bluemarkers Dec 2012 #11
So Fox News is the standard you want people to live by? brooklynite Dec 2012 #12
"shut up and broadcast", eh? Strange company you find yourself in bed with. n/t DisgustipatedinCA Dec 2012 #24
The situation concerned a sports figure 1gobluedem Dec 2012 #28
Agreed. TDale313 Dec 2012 #32
His screed was beyond the pale and insulted millions of law abiding citizens. nt rDigital Dec 2012 #87
This was a sports story Johnny2X2X Dec 2012 #35
I agree ! And riverbendviewgal Dec 2012 #19
i believe you can trash it, barbtries Dec 2012 #33
if I do that riverbendviewgal Dec 2012 #43
yes. barbtries Dec 2012 #45
That just shows which Group (as opposed to Forum) you've posted in petronius Dec 2012 #37
I have done that already riverbendviewgal Dec 2012 #44
I don't think trashing will change it - you'll still have posted in that Group petronius Dec 2012 #48
what is E/E? riverbendviewgal Dec 2012 #59
Environment and Energy - it looks like you have two posts in that Group over the petronius Dec 2012 #62
thank you riverbendviewgal Dec 2012 #64
I own a gun but... free420 Dec 2012 #26
I have NEVER met a CPL holder that wants to use one in a fight. AtheistCrusader Dec 2012 #39
Guns used for self-offense 40 times more than for self-defense. ErikJ Dec 2012 #83
That's some Major League Brady Campaign Shenanigans right there. nt rDigital Dec 2012 #88
I couldn't agree more. 99Forever Dec 2012 #31
I couldn't disagree more Big Gay Al Dec 2012 #52
Disagree then. 99Forever Dec 2012 #53
It works both ways. Big Gay Al Dec 2012 #71
Sorry to hear about your friends. : ( nt rDigital Dec 2012 #89
I get what you're trying to say...but re-read that thread title for grammar... Ken Burch Dec 2012 #36
Agreed. BUT his bosses don't have to like it, him, or his future employment. WinkyDink Dec 2012 #41
Bob Costas is a moron. But, he is entitled to his opinion, even if he's wrong. Big Gay Al Dec 2012 #49
It is upsetting to the masses JEB Dec 2012 #50
I agree 1000% and don't care much for Bob Costas anyway n/t doc03 Dec 2012 #55
I know a lot of folks who own guns... WaitWut Dec 2012 #56
Hi there. Wait Wut Dec 2012 #66
... Union Scribe Dec 2012 #74
ROFL. nt rDigital Dec 2012 #90
That Mayan calendar thing might come true. Wait Wut Dec 2012 #97
A great quote from the character Louse (Bob's Burgers) I almost wet myself ..... MichaelSoE Dec 2012 #58
Lol, I love that show. Union Scribe Dec 2012 #75
gun nuts are fucking cowards Skittles Dec 2012 #65
Wanna bet Big Gay Al Dec 2012 #72
naw, the truth is the problem Skittles Dec 2012 #76
I can't speak for Big Al, but the dishonesty of our party on guns has always appalled me Recursion Dec 2012 #101
wow HeavenTim Dec 2012 #77
I like ODonnels quote: "You cant hit a homer without a bat". ErikJ Dec 2012 #84
He was quoting someone and he said NOTHING about gun laws TexasBushwhacker Dec 2012 #91
Note that Russia has almost 3x our total homicide rate and ZERO legal civi firearms. rDigital Dec 2012 #92
Unless you have stats on methods this is meaningless TexasBushwhacker Dec 2012 #93
Never looked into it, but the numbers speak for themselves. What does a law matter if rDigital Dec 2012 #94
His right to say it, when and where he did, is all determined by NBC. Angleae Dec 2012 #95
Does anyone who us now bitching... 99Forever Dec 2012 #98
"more and more domestic disputes ending in the ultimate tragedy" is untrue Recursion Dec 2012 #102
ITA !!!!!!! NT mfcorey1 Dec 2012 #105
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