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LeftInTX

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97. Like the way the SC decided Trump's immunity? Or the judge kicked Trump's case to the curb?

Thu Aug 22, 2024, 06:41 PM

Aug 2024

The Logan Act is over 200 years old. It applies to everyone in the country. It applies to you. It applies to me. It applies to civilian Trump. No one has ever been taken to court over it. Two were charged in the 19th Century, but the charges were dropped. A farmer in Kentucky was charged for collaborating with the French who owned Louisiana at the time. An American who was living in Mexico was charged because of a contact to build a railroad in Mexico. In both cases the charges were dropped.

It isn't the espionage act. It isn't the FISA Act. It isn't the foreign agents act.

I'm sure many many instances have happened, but no one is ever charged. It's a law that "sits on the books", but isn't enforced.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan_Act

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Donald Trump Accused of Committing 'Massive Crime' With Reported Phone Call (Israel) [View all] iemanja Aug 2024 OP

So what, that old myth is/was just that, a myth. republianmushroom Aug 2024 #1

I don't follow your point iemanja Aug 2024 #4

the allegation, no, the prosecution of the convicted felon for this, yes, a myth. republianmushroom Aug 2024 #9

Oh, right iemanja Aug 2024 #11

Did the NSA record the call? C_U_L8R Aug 2024 #2

If Netanyahu took the call they most certainly did. stumpysbear Aug 2024 #5

Did tRump say it "was a PERFECT phone call"? ProudMNDemocrat Aug 2024 #3

The Polk Administration Jose Garcia Aug 2024 #92

Who would arrest and prosecute him? lees1975 Aug 2024 #6

Not THIS justice department iemanja Aug 2024 #13

Pretty silly. The Logan Act is widely believed to be unconstitutional and not a single person has ever been tritsofme Aug 2024 #14

I'm taking a shot at Garland iemanja Aug 2024 #16

A shot at him for not prosecuting under a law widely believed to be unconstitutional? tritsofme Aug 2024 #18

A shot at him for how he handled Trump in general iemanja Aug 2024 #19

So to atone for these supposed transgressions you want him to prosecute under an unconstitutional law? That makes sense. tritsofme Aug 2024 #38

I'm not a legal expert iemanja Aug 2024 #43

You need to back off on saying this person holds SCOTUS belovedly edisdead Aug 2024 #57

This message was self-deleted by its author iemanja Aug 2024 #59

Okay, I deleted beloved iemanja Aug 2024 #60

No, abortion is not unconstitutional. It's just that marybourg Aug 2024 #67

Yes, I do understand that. iemanja Aug 2024 #82

About the Logan Act LeftInTX Aug 2024 #96

those two people NJCher Aug 2024 #29

What I posted are simply facts. You can do whatever research you please. tritsofme Aug 2024 #39

so you're not a lawyer NJCher Aug 2024 #42

Have whatever fun fantasies you want, doesn't bother me. tritsofme Aug 2024 #44

Treason? StClone Aug 2024 #70

Exactly. Reagan had Bush 1 and friends to do the dirty work. mjvpi Aug 2024 #87

So you do not feel that to penalize one from engaging in unauthorized diplomacy harumph Aug 2024 #49

So is it a law or isn't it? jalan48 Aug 2024 #28

It is very unlikely to be good law. Courts don't hear hypothetical cases tritsofme Aug 2024 #37

Well, I say drag his sorry ass into court and make a spectacle of it. It's what the Republicans would do. jalan48 Aug 2024 #40

And that's why folks like this don't run the Justice Department. tritsofme Aug 2024 #41

THIS !!! We all know they would've give a damn what kinda law it was !! uponit7771 Aug 2024 #105

It's amazing. Every fucking time. Orrex Aug 2024 #54

I agree completely, though I would call these fine folks something other than "Stalwarts". RussellCattle Aug 2024 #94

I've had posts hidden for calilng them "cheerleaders" Orrex Aug 2024 #99

Nice. Stalwarts it is, then. Your post is a small work of art, by way. Well written. Kudos. RussellCattle Aug 2024 #103

Like the way the SC decided Trump's immunity? Or the judge kicked Trump's case to the curb? LeftInTX Aug 2024 #97

Either you're being disingenuous, or this is your first day on DU Orrex Aug 2024 #98

I've been here twelve years. You're the one who started picking on DU members who pointed out facts LeftInTX Aug 2024 #100

LOL Orrex Aug 2024 #101

That's what you're doing to me! Calling me disingenuous, stalwart or whatever. You're calling me names. LeftInTX Aug 2024 #102

Whoa. I apologize. Truly. Orrex Aug 2024 #106

AMEN !!! So fuckin sick of them uponit7771 Aug 2024 #104

When you're famous they let you do it... RockRaven Aug 2024 #7

Yes, and besides which - this is all just "locker room talk" among boys... PeaceWave Aug 2024 #17

Being the known liar that he is, is there any doubt he made the call? brush Aug 2024 #8

When a lie is an accepted defense or alibi. AnnaLee Aug 2024 #10

"Bibi, can you find me 10,781 votes? Oh, wait, that was Georgia, 2020. Just delay the deal til Nov 6." bucolic_frolic Aug 2024 #12

Exactly. Trump is trying to copy how Nixon iced the Vietnam peace talks. nt SunSeeker Aug 2024 #21

And Reagan JustAnotherGen Aug 2024 #69

If the call occurred, the NSA knows ScratchCat Aug 2024 #15

Logan, Shmogan, Permanut Aug 2024 #20

And I'm sure he's broken the Logan Act more times than we know PatSeg Aug 2024 #22

Has anyone counted the times his administration blew the Hatch Act out of the water? usonian Aug 2024 #65

Yes, he and his administration Prof. Toru Tanaka Aug 2024 #71

It was like watching a satirical movie PatSeg Aug 2024 #77

I was wondering the same thing PatSeg Aug 2024 #75

He thinks he's still President Joinfortmill Aug 2024 #23

No, he thinks he's better than that... nt Shipwack Aug 2024 #50

So do his nutty followers. Prof. Toru Tanaka Aug 2024 #84

Hope they get Trump for it Jarqui Aug 2024 #24

More about this from BlueMTexpat Aug 2024 #25

But if only there was some precedent of Trump interfering in official state business... Bucky Aug 2024 #47

You ask is Netanyahu capable of breaking the Logan Act? Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha. Whew. NO laws apply... RussellCattle Aug 2024 #26

You're the first to address that question iemanja Aug 2024 #33

I told everyone Deep State Witch Aug 2024 #27

And poison-pill new demands in the ceasefire deal too. AloeVera Aug 2024 #52

+1 orangecrush Aug 2024 #85

"Netanyahu denied the call took place." Dave Bowman Aug 2024 #30

Tangerine Man's Crime Wave Continues - Where is Merrick Garland? waterwatcher123 Aug 2024 #31

LOCK HIM UP! joanbarnes Aug 2024 #32

Lock Him Up! Lock Him Up! Lock Him Up! LW1977 Aug 2024 #34

How can DownriverDem Aug 2024 #35

Phone records & contact logs, eye witnesses, Bucky Aug 2024 #46

Donald Trump Accused of Committing 'Massive Crime' Richard D Aug 2024 #36

"But is Netanyahu?" -- Spoiler: he's a bitter racist Bucky Aug 2024 #45

Wasn't Bibi at Mar a lago recently? kimbutgar Aug 2024 #48

Yes, in May iemanja Aug 2024 #62

The May meeting was Trump's advisors, and in Israel. Netanyahu Ilsa Aug 2024 #63

Ah, ok iemanja Aug 2024 #64

I hope someone can back that up. Excellent if they played it to let them lie about it first. I find it hard to brewens Aug 2024 #51

Woodruff has apologized for mis-reporting this. former9thward Aug 2024 #53

Trump and Bibi deny it iemanja Aug 2024 #55

Then prove it. former9thward Aug 2024 #56

I'm not a court of law iemanja Aug 2024 #58

Does anyone claim that it did happen? Dr. Strange Aug 2024 #81

Yeah, Axios had two US sources who were briefed on the call iemanja Aug 2024 #83

So she takes Trump and Bibi at their word? usonian Aug 2024 #66

There is no one saying it did happen. former9thward Aug 2024 #88

I won't argue that point. usonian Aug 2024 #89

She's just saying that she can't confirm it and that Trump and Netanyahu deny it. LeftInTX Aug 2024 #107

K&R UTUSN Aug 2024 #61

Vote C Moon Aug 2024 #68

K&R spanone Aug 2024 #72

Is Netanyahu capable of breaking the Logan Act? Fuck yes he is. Autumn Aug 2024 #73

Accused by who? MorbidButterflyTat Aug 2024 #74

The law cannot keep up with this criminal. kentuck Aug 2024 #76

This is the same behavior that got him impeached. bullimiami Aug 2024 #78

Jesus Christ -- LOCK HIM UP already!!! Blue Owl Aug 2024 #79

The Pike has'nt peaked. czarjak Aug 2024 #80

This is a tough one. Who's really lying? Trump or Netanyahu? Ray Bruns Aug 2024 #86

probably both. iemanja Aug 2024 #90

Well if Trump is lying then Netanyahu is telling the truth but if both are lying then one is telling the truth. Ray Bruns Aug 2024 #91

They are both denying it iemanja Aug 2024 #93

The Logan Act has never been enforced. LeftInTX Aug 2024 #95