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Polybius

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35. I was thinking of another word

Reply to Think. Again. (Reply #21)

Sat Aug 31, 2024, 08:37 PM

Aug 2024

Loophole.

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I'm not a fan of the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact [View all] Bucky Aug 2024 OP

The popular vote winner should become president n/t servermsh Aug 2024 #1

Agree. But if Republicans don't agree to it and preserve their EC advantage, we shouldn't either Bucky Aug 2024 #8

Why would we want to preserve anyone's EC advantage over the popular vote? Think. Again. Aug 2024 #11

I'm not disputing the principle. I'm saying you're asking the wrong question. Bucky Aug 2024 #25

Dissenting states would not have to agree to the compact... Think. Again. Aug 2024 #30

The compact only goes into effect Ms. Toad Sep 2024 #41

President is the only election where someone can win without getting the most votes Wiz Imp Aug 2024 #2

I agree it *shouldn't* be a partisan issue, but in reality it actually is Bucky Aug 2024 #9

I don't think we should abandon the popular vote based on hypotheticals. Think. Again. Aug 2024 #12

This message was self-deleted by its author Wiz Imp Aug 2024 #22

In your hypothetical, the cryptomaggat won the popular vote - Ms. Toad Sep 2024 #42

The compact only goes into effect when the Voltaire2 Aug 2024 #3

No. The winner of the popular vote should become President. Period. Keeping the EC because it might benefit Democrats * Oopsie Daisy Aug 2024 #4

I like your principles. Bucky Aug 2024 #10

The compact IS a change to the popular vote system. Think. Again. Aug 2024 #13

The compact implements the principles. Period. Ms. Toad Sep 2024 #43

The pact doesn't kick in until it wouldn't be unilateral disarmament RidinWithHarris Aug 2024 #5

That's the operating theory. But is that a full guaranty against unintended consequences? Bucky Aug 2024 #14

There are no full guaranties against unintended consequences. Think. Again. Aug 2024 #15

Spoiler candidates are no more or no less of a problem with the electoral vote pact. RidinWithHarris Aug 2024 #19

I really don't want to start a whole sideline discussion but... Think. Again. Aug 2024 #31

But it's the rules... WarGamer Aug 2024 #6

Baseball is a GREAT analogy for the Electoral College Bucky Aug 2024 #17

You seem to merely have a vague ill-formed fear of the Popular Vote Interstate Compact... RidinWithHarris Aug 2024 #23

I always liked a simular sports anaology. Jk23 Sep 2024 #47

EC is one of those matters that won't change in my lifetime and probably decades afterwards. Silent Type Aug 2024 #7

The right way is to amend the Constitution to require states to award their electoral votes proportionally pecosbob Aug 2024 #16

I like that solution. Bucky Aug 2024 #18

Another way would be to build the strength we need to do that... Think. Again. Aug 2024 #20

You are devising a plan to retain power despite the popular vote... Think. Again. Aug 2024 #21

I'm not devising it. I'm saying Republicans are never going to quit defending it Bucky Aug 2024 #26

I was thinking of another word Polybius Aug 2024 #35

The compact only goes into effect once an EV majority of the states sign on. Foolacious Aug 2024 #24

Oh, I totally get how the Constitution and the Compact work. Bucky Aug 2024 #27

You do realize that a constitutional ammendment mandating the popular vote winner the winner Wiz Imp Sep 2024 #46

Uhhh, that's actual democracy. If republicans win over 50% of the national vote, they should win unblock Aug 2024 #28

It's all or nothing. Cannot be anything in between. yourout Aug 2024 #29

I hate it too, but fear not because it's blatantly unconstitutional Polybius Aug 2024 #32

100% Constitutional JCMach1 Aug 2024 #34

100% not, on two counts Polybius Aug 2024 #36

Unfortunately... Think. Again. Aug 2024 #37

Depends what the vote is Polybius Aug 2024 #40

And states need approval from Congress in order to enter into a compact with other states Kaleva Aug 2024 #38

The GOP will challenge it in court if they lose! LeftInTX Sep 2024 #44

It's called democracy and it's how most of the world does it... JCMach1 Aug 2024 #33

Then "make it go"..LOL LeftInTX Sep 2024 #45

I think it's a waste of effort The Revolution Aug 2024 #39