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13. It's worse than that actually
Sun Sep 1, 2024, 01:10 PM
Sep 2024

Property taxes keep less wealthy people from being upwardly mobile.

They should not finance schools this way because if the property values are low the tax base is small and that gives less money to the schools which affects the educational opportunities of the residents and just adds to the obstacles to becoming more wealthy.

I know someone who went to school in a wealthy area and you could get a pilots license as part of your high school education, among many other things.

Schools in France have enough money to provide actual meals using local products and professional chefs to make sure they have the cultural benefits and better nutrition to help them.

I believe they use a national income tax for schools that is then divided by student population across the country.

So beyond being a wealth or in this case an asset based tax ( based on an asset that appreciates and can be handed down so is not a always reflection of the current owners ability to pay an increasing tax ) it is not equally beneficial to the community and is a tax for schools that a person may or may not use themselves.

I was home schooled and have never had children of my own so all the "school tax" I have paid as property taxes, were for the benefit of society to have an educated population and I'm ok with that.

I'm pretty sure the school tax system was originally partially to keep minorities down or more specifically former slaves by tying educational quality and opportunity to property values and still let the rich benefit from better schools because for some reason the property of the wealthy is worth more than that of people in less affluent areas.

I'm also seeing now that I am in retirement my income has dropped but my property taxes have been increasing and will at some point force me to sell property that I can't afford taxes on or it will be taken anyway. So it's also a regressive tax in that way.

Just my opinions, some facts may be off but most of it is accurate as far as I know.

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Why is it a wealth tax? LuckyCharms Sep 2024 #1
Because you pay taxes on the value (including unrealized gain) of your property. Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2024 #5
But as stated by another poster below... LuckyCharms Sep 2024 #6
So it's a regressive wealth tax. Doesn't change the fact it's a wealth tax. It just makes it all that more common Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2024 #10
My school taxes are based on an assessed value of $3,200, and it's been that way since 1978 with no change. LuckyCharms Sep 2024 #11
That seems weird to me. There is an entire industry of law practice based on fighting increased assessed values. Hassin Bin Sober Sep 2024 #14
It's weird to me as well. LuckyCharms Sep 2024 #16
I have no clue how your state does it but NY State has an equalization rate for each town or city. frogstar0 Sep 2024 #17
Then for school taxes, what do you think they should be based on, rather than property? LuckyCharms Sep 2024 #18
Income. Voltaire2 Sep 2024 #31
Would that taxing process be administered by the school district? LuckyCharms Sep 2024 #33
It should be statewide and provide equitable Voltaire2 Sep 2024 #36
The only way that will happen is if we stop protecting jimfields33 Sep 2024 #44
How big? dpibel Sep 2024 #59
I meant Ukraine. Sorry about that. jimfields33 Sep 2024 #63
Here is some startling news for you!!!! dpibel Sep 2024 #64
The Horn of Africa is made up of a group of countries. jimfields33 Sep 2024 #65
More news!! dpibel Sep 2024 #67
We spend zero on Afghanistan. We got out in 2021. Voltaire2 Sep 2024 #71
That's very unusual. In many (most?) jurisdictions, properties spooky3 Sep 2024 #28
Sounds like California. Voltaire2 Sep 2024 #30
Not in California...Yet another plus about living in this glorious state! PeaceWave Sep 2024 #23
Wealth tax? I don't consider my property taxes a wealth tax. jimfields33 Sep 2024 #2
It is literally a tax on unrealized wealth. Voltaire2 Sep 2024 #32
Well. I believe it a tax to pay for schools, police, jimfields33 Sep 2024 #42
How does that make it not a wealth tax? Voltaire2 Sep 2024 #43
It just doesn't. There is nobody on earth who says it is. jimfields33 Sep 2024 #50
You should find out dpibel Sep 2024 #52
Why would I? It's one of vice President harris' platform initiative. jimfields33 Sep 2024 #53
Why would you? dpibel Sep 2024 #60
BTW dpibel Sep 2024 #61
I think you're saying wealth taxes are normal? The GQP shouldn't complain about taxes? lindysalsagal Sep 2024 #3
Yes, not new, not weird, not undoable frogstar0 Sep 2024 #73
Even renters pay for schools... getagrip_already Sep 2024 #4
ergo (in my humble opinion) ret5hd Sep 2024 #8
True... getagrip_already Sep 2024 #9
When my old house didn't sell and I had to rent it out, the rent spooky3 Sep 2024 #29
They can only pass through what the market allows. Voltaire2 Sep 2024 #34
I own a house, but I don't feel like I'm paying a wealth tax. patphil Sep 2024 #7
Any tax, regardless of what it is or what you call it, is used to "insure the community can function." PSPS Sep 2024 #12
Very true, but a wealth tax is based on net worth. patphil Sep 2024 #56
Oddly enough the tax code considers the increase Voltaire2 Sep 2024 #62
That's fine with me. PSPS Sep 2024 #70
But you do. frogstar0 Sep 2024 #19
You're talking about a piece of a person's net worth. patphil Sep 2024 #58
Right but.... frogstar0 Sep 2024 #74
It is irrelevant what it is used for. Voltaire2 Sep 2024 #35
Not Understanding That ProfessorGAC Sep 2024 #46
It's worse than that actually LetsGetSmartAboutIt Sep 2024 #13
Don't mortgagees pay 100% of property taxes House of Roberts Sep 2024 #15
You mean......wait for it..... frogstar0 Sep 2024 #20
Yep BrianTheEVGuy Sep 2024 #22
This isn't how it works in California. PeaceWave Sep 2024 #24
Michigan is similar DetroitLegalBeagle Sep 2024 #55
Dave the electrician and Maddy the plumber made bad real estate investments? Sparkly Sep 2024 #78
It's even worse than that. What Elon and friends are whining about spooky3 Sep 2024 #40
The mortgage escrow account pays the property taxes and insurance. haele Sep 2024 #25
We Split Our Payments ProfessorGAC Sep 2024 #47
Depends on your mortgage. And it is irrelevant. Voltaire2 Sep 2024 #37
What 'depends on your mortgage'? House of Roberts Sep 2024 #45
Right. So you put enough down that the bank didn't add an escrow requirement to the mortgage. Voltaire2 Sep 2024 #48
My ex paid a down payment on the initial purchase of the home House of Roberts Sep 2024 #68
Yes that sucks. Voltaire2 Sep 2024 #69
That's a very good point. Nt lostnfound Sep 2024 #38
No it is utterly irrelevant. Voltaire2 Sep 2024 #41
Well you see... BrianTheEVGuy Sep 2024 #21
In fairness, Elon musk paid 11 billion in taxes. jimfields33 Sep 2024 #72
That poor Elon! dpibel Sep 2024 #75
In Minnesota, renters get a property tax rebate check. mn9driver Sep 2024 #26
People who just bought a home have no real equity or wealth in their home. pwb Sep 2024 #27
The point is completely the opposite. Voltaire2 Sep 2024 #39
And also, yes the bank owns most of the wealth at first, but you get to pay the tax for the bank's share too. Voltaire2 Sep 2024 #49
Yes, it's a wealth tax, but ...... dumbcat Sep 2024 #51
Regressive wealth tax for sure... JT45242 Sep 2024 #54
This message was self-deleted by its author Wednesdays Sep 2024 #57
Got mine too maxrandb Sep 2024 #66
Congratulations!! Sparkly Sep 2024 #76
Wealth tax drives trumpsters crazy, even though it doesn't impact most of them. I'm beginning to think a tax on stock Silent Type Sep 2024 #77
I pay my fair share, No complaints, Social compact and all. OAITW r.2.0 Sep 2024 #79
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