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Jeebo

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60. Wanna hear my conspiracy theory?
Wed Sep 4, 2024, 03:27 PM
Sep 2024

Except I don't believe it is a conspiracy theory. I believe it's what really happened.

During the post-election media recount, the results of which were reported in the aftermath of 9/11, there was one Washington Post reporter who noted an interesting anomaly about the Florida vote. There were several different kinds of overvote ballots in Florida, votes for Gore and somebody else, for Bush and somebody else, for somebody else and some else, but it was the Bush/Gore overvote ballots that had something odd about them. The Washington Post reporter (can't remember his name) said that they were ALL in punch-card counties. That is, the counties where you punched a hole in a card, as opposed to the counties where you filled in an oval with a felt-tip pen. The overall number of Bush/Gore overvote ballots in the state was anomalously high too, but what was TRULY suspicious was the fact that they were ALL in punch-card counties.

What could produce this odd result? I started thinking back on election night, when while watching election returns on TV I kept noticing that there were a lot of ballots in those south Florida counties that were not being counted until very late, in the wee hours. And those were punch-card counties. And then I read online an article by a reporter for an Arizona newspaper named Sharman Braff who observed that if you wanted to fix a lot of ballots late on election night after you were able to discern just how many it would take to ensure that your candidate won, what would be the most efficient way to accomplish that? You could stack up two or three dozen punch-cards at a time and mass-punch them through the Bush hole. That would produce a lot of Bush/Gore overvote ballots, while leaving the Bush ballots as unchanged Bush ballots. To fix a lot of ballots in the felt-tip oval counties, you would have to alter them one ballot at a time, very time-consuming, not easy to change a lot of votes in a big hurry.

So Bush officially "won" Florida by 537 votes.

I truly and honestly believe this is what happened in those south Florida counties in the wee hours after midnight on election night 2000. I remember Braff said that over the Thanksgiving dinner table, members of the Bush family were angry at Jeb Bush and Katharine Harris that they let it get so uncomfortably close.

Two problems with my conspiracy theory: I am reporting this through the haze of quarter-century-old memories, and it depends on information that I received from only one person, which I admit does make it suspect. Nevertheless, I believe and have believed ever since then and will always believe that this is what happened. I keep hoping that somebody who participated in this nastiness will make a deathbed confession and reveal it all.

-- Ron

P.S. -- Don't have the time now, but late tonight when I have a little time I'm going to see if I can Google-search that Sharman Braff article. The online article I read included a headline or subhead that said something about "Katharine Harris with tweezers".

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That election was stolen from Gore malaise Feb 2024 #1
Hell yes it was. I was sick over it. Hekate Feb 2024 #3
Florida Supreme Court had already ruled counting triron Feb 2024 #25
Just the typical spoiled kid philosophy: If mom says NO, ask dad, and offer bribes. Attilatheblond Sep 2024 #51
I think about it every day. LisaM Feb 2024 #2
I have never forgotten. yardwork Feb 2024 #5
I agree with you 100%. Bluepinky Feb 2024 #6
That decision came sharply to mind yesterday. LisaM Feb 2024 #34
"Oh, you mean like Florida?! " said I to the TV machine. They put on quite a performance, didn't they? Hekate Feb 2024 #37
K & R SunSeeker Feb 2024 #4
I remember Cherokee100 Feb 2024 #7
Coupled with an arbitrarily inadequate time frame for completing the recount Zambero Feb 2024 #20
I remember, and I will never forget. niyad Feb 2024 #8
I remember it like it was yesterday. Lasher Feb 2024 #9
Matt "he pummeled my junk at length" Schlapp. nt Hotler Feb 2024 #31
I remember. I will also never forget. Silver Gaia Feb 2024 #10
Imagine that a state the size of Florida Pototan Feb 2024 #11
I became a different person because of that. Native Feb 2024 #12
Thom Hartmann spoke to it at length yesterday, comparing that corrupt court to the current one. Ferrets are Cool Feb 2024 #13
I'll never forget those days. ancianita Feb 2024 #14
Those goddamned chads limbicnuminousity Feb 2024 #15
I live in West Palm Beach. I remember it very well. scarletlib Feb 2024 #16
Bush v Gore changed me Laurelin Feb 2024 #17
"Their side keeps winning" Wednesdays Feb 2024 #22
Thanks for the reminder Laurelin Feb 2024 #39
Please don't accept the media framing of Republicans as winners... CBHagman Feb 2024 #41
Ugh i try to forget swift boating Laurelin Feb 2024 #44
That 'riot' was the reason I joined DU superpatriotman Feb 2024 #18
let's not forget roger stone. mopinko Feb 2024 #19
I volunteered almost full-time on the Gore campaign. barbaraann Feb 2024 #21
Remember back in 2001 when President Gore's administration, following LeftinOH Feb 2024 #23
Money is the problem and until someone has the courage to defang and leash the fuckers redqueen Feb 2024 #24
Our electoral process has become an industry. It's disgusting. CrispyQ Feb 2024 #29
Yes but malaise Feb 2024 #42
It was about power and money GoreWon2000 Aug 2024 #46
So are you suggesting that the only way to prevent election theft malaise Aug 2024 #48
You continue to not say what he should've done GoreWon2000 Aug 2024 #49
Its one of the things I will never forget. nt doc03 Feb 2024 #26
that was the day an American election was stolen by the republicans on the Supreme Court samsingh Feb 2024 #27
I was headed to Florida for the statewide recount when Bush v. Gore came down LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2024 #28
And that decision was so devastating for our country. Just look at the agony Bush put the country through. ratchiweenie Feb 2024 #30
States' Rights? Not when our guy is losing! NameAlreadyTaken Feb 2024 #32
What a different country this would be if lynintenn Feb 2024 #33
Me Hobo Feb 2024 #35
The Brooks Brothers riot. A dress rehearsal for January 6th. Aristus Feb 2024 #36
Your last line Hekate Feb 2024 #38
Everyone should look at the Bush v. Gore chapter in The Press Effect. CBHagman Feb 2024 #40
Pro bushthief media did NOT follow Florida election law GoreWon2000 Sep 2024 #50
I will never foget or forgive that horrible election 🤬 Raine Feb 2024 #43
Like it was yesterday. AmBlue Feb 2024 #45
Our country will never be the same GoreWon2000 Aug 2024 #47
the rightwingers will be trying a lot more than that... Think. Again. Sep 2024 #52
I will forever regret that I didn't fly down to FL that day and WhiteTara Sep 2024 #53
Future Supreme Court Justices were involved with Bush V Gore.... surfered Sep 2024 #54
That's the kind of thing -- well, the far right in America takes the very long view, don't they? Hekate Sep 2024 #55
Yes. They concentrated on State Houses and the Supreme Court. surfered Sep 2024 #64
I was headed to Florida for the recount when Bush v. Gore came down LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2024 #56
I'm very grateful for all your good efforts Hekate Sep 2024 #57
That's what comes in not aggressively prosecuting to the full extent of the law. bullimiami Sep 2024 #58
I remember it all too well. Gore1FL Sep 2024 #59
Except the Brooks Brothers rioters were better-dressed. Trump's only gripe about 1/6 afaik... Hekate Sep 2024 #61
Wanna hear my conspiracy theory? Jeebo Sep 2024 #60
Oh I believe you all right. That whole Florida thing stank to high heaven. The more people mention this&that... Hekate Sep 2024 #62
Can't find the Braff article. Jeebo Sep 2024 #63
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