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In reply to the discussion: Sorry, but I am sick and tired of those professing how the AR15 or [View all]
DenaliDemocrat
(1,777 posts)247. Yes and no.
Yes, they can be used. No - AR-15’s are NOT a good caliber for ANY game species. AR-10’s are sufficient.
There are companies like Palmetto State Armory who have openly stated their goal is to put an AR in every American’s hands. They sell a good quality AR15 milspec carbine for less than $400. Composite 30-round magazines are $8. I know guys who have over 100 magazines loaded and ready in ammo boxes.
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Heard someone on M. Joe this am say that ARs are used to hunt "feral pigs."
allegorical oracle
Sep 2024
#5
Wow! So there are 20 million American "feral pig" hunters in the United States.
patphil
Sep 2024
#10
To destroy a ferral unwanted species. "Hunting" (at least the ethical variety) implies killing for food.
hlthe2b
Sep 2024
#23
Most of those "hunters" don't harvest the meat. They're just exterminating a nuisance.
bluesbassman
Sep 2024
#20
It's like the other excuse: "I have an AR-15 to defend against a tyrannical government!"
bluesbassman
Sep 2024
#250
I imagine man-traps arranged along a hiking path would bag a few feral pigs too.
Scrivener7
Sep 2024
#78
Bullshit. I've seen it. Automatic firing of these rounds, whether .223 or .30 does incredible damage.
hlthe2b
Sep 2024
#15
And when the weapon of choice for nearly all the nation's past mass killings has been the AR-15 the past decade where
hlthe2b
Sep 2024
#41
I am absolutely DONE with those fixated on debating types of semiautomatic guns, bullet caliber, velocity,
hlthe2b
Sep 2024
#244
Did you read the part in bold? I'm with you on the technicalities, HOWEVER
RandomNumbers
Sep 2024
#245
Bullshit. EOM. No, see my other posts and then give some thought to your defense of the AR-15
hlthe2b
Sep 2024
#18
Yet another reason I beseech you to put me on your ignore list. Killing prairie dogs as "sport"...
hlthe2b
Sep 2024
#27
Bullshit. You have no clue. Do some damned research on the issue and don't just take what some
hlthe2b
Sep 2024
#44
I never discussed poisoning--that is ALL YOU. That might deprive you, however, of your shooting for fun.
hlthe2b
Sep 2024
#56
I don't, like you, sit on the back porch killing "varmints" with your AR-15 or whatever gun du jour, so I have had time
hlthe2b
Sep 2024
#67
I think your use of the word "varmint," then accusing ME of caricaturing you as Jed Clampett will make a lot
hlthe2b
Sep 2024
#94
Enough of them semi-automatically directed into a body and shredding it beyond recognition is plenty lethal.
hlthe2b
Sep 2024
#31
MADNESS that we are DEBATING whether ANYONE can have a WEAPON OF WAR let alone
Eliot Rosewater
Sep 2024
#39
When you have seen what is left of a human shredded by semiautomatic use of an AR-15 on the autopsy table
hlthe2b
Sep 2024
#50
That you want to debate one gun against another for its appropriate use in mass human killings is OBSCENE.
hlthe2b
Sep 2024
#60
If repeating back to you the points you tried to make is "slander," you don't know what slander is.
hlthe2b
Sep 2024
#69
All semi-automatics, yes. But the overwhelming majority of mass shootings have been AR-15s or their
hlthe2b
Sep 2024
#156
It's the cartridge fired and magazine capacity that make a gun an assault weapon
Kaleva
Sep 2024
#163
If the people calling for an end to gun violence are spreading (incorrect information) disinformation,
yagotme
Sep 2024
#212
It is the high SPEED and TUMBLE of the cartridges out of an AR that causes the massive damage compared to a handgun.
SunSeeker
Sep 2024
#144
A .223 coming out of an AR-15 will turn deer flesh to mush just like it does to humans.
SunSeeker
Sep 2024
#146
A .223 out of an AR-15 tumbles when it hits flesh, unlike a standard deer rifle bullet.
SunSeeker
Sep 2024
#223
When you take a wry cynical comment bemoaning the death of countless children and adults in mass murder
hlthe2b
Sep 2024
#242
Your personal attacks noted and beyond inappropriate. It reflects very poorly on you.
hlthe2b
Sep 2024
#249
It is, the .223 round is not deemed sufficiently powerful enough to ensure a clean kill,
MarineCombatEngineer
Sep 2024
#109
A .223 coming out of an AR-15 is not a "varmint round." It's a soldier pulverizer. nt
SunSeeker
Sep 2024
#267
The AR-15 is designed to spew .223 bullets at a speed that will make them tumble upon impact with flesh.
SunSeeker
Sep 2024
#283
You should just stop posting replies to me. You're wasting your and my time.
SunSeeker
Sep 2024
#291
It is you who is spreading disinformation that hurts the gun control movement. nt
SunSeeker
Sep 2024
#293
Being able to put .22 and shotgun shells in AR-15s is not why they're popular, lol.
SunSeeker
Sep 2024
#268
What percentage of people who drove drunk killed someone? Yet it is still illegal.
SunSeeker
Sep 2024
#275
The proper analogy to drunk driving being illegal would be that shooting people should therefore be illegal
MichMan
Sep 2024
#285
Drunk driving is like owning an AR-15. There is no redeeming benefit to it, and it can result in death.
SunSeeker
Sep 2024
#286
Couple of years ago I read a study that says roughly 6% or people hunt at least once a year. To me that means about
Silent Type
Sep 2024
#6
Are they hunting thirty deer at a time, all of whom are capable of shooting back?
Aristus
Sep 2024
#7
Then you've missed the pro-AR-15 crowd after every attempt to bring back the ban. I am shocked you have
hlthe2b
Sep 2024
#12
And THAT is the stupidest claim of all. Those Meal Team Six slugs with their dude ranch AR's ain't deterring crap.
bluesbassman
Sep 2024
#30
One of the times I went deer hunting, I could hear someone using an assault rifle.
Archae
Sep 2024
#9
You can always live the life that decreases your chances of being killed too. Isn't that better than poisoning all of ..
uponit7771
Sep 2024
#238
Exactly what I told another member in either this thread or another thread,
MarineCombatEngineer
Sep 2024
#128
That's a misleading claim, Kaleva. The AR-15 sold to civilians is a replica of the M16.
SunSeeker
Sep 2024
#145
There is no "confusion." AR-15 rifles were originally designed for the military.
SunSeeker
Sep 2024
#150
All of these AR-15 style rifles have their origins in Stoner's assault rifle invention he made for the military.
SunSeeker
Sep 2024
#218
Sick, greedy gun manufacturers took a military weapon and marketed it to civilians.
SunSeeker
Sep 2024
#225
I noticed they only used a AR-15 and not any other rifle chambered to fire the .223 round
Kaleva
Sep 2024
#232
The results were NOT the same, Kaleva. The .308 in your video did not tumble.
SunSeeker
Sep 2024
#233
If Stephen Paddock had been using a bolt action rifle, he would not have been able to kill 60 and wound 413 in Vegas.
SunSeeker
Sep 2024
#255
Yes, you know, I've decided I need my own M1A1 Abrams TANK to hunt squirrels! n/t
PatrickforB
Sep 2024
#46
Here is the little I know about what our military consider weapons of war. In 1965 early 1966 I was being trained as....
usaf-vet
Sep 2024
#52
They are great for hunting and efficiently killing large numbers of humans in a short amount of time
dlk
Sep 2024
#70
Well, I was in the military too. I was with 101st. But I don't hunt, but I do know what the M-16 could do.
ashredux
Sep 2024
#176
Come on man... you know why 90% of the people by the weapon. To shoot other people. Period.
ashredux
Sep 2024
#190
Well, when you can say that someone in a car can go into a high school and kill multiple people in minutes...
ashredux
Sep 2024
#197
Please, at all three of those venues you could mow more people down on the sidewalk out front..
EX500rider
Sep 2024
#271
Nope. The "why" is we equip our homicidal loons with AR-15s, unlike other countries.
SunSeeker
Sep 2024
#272
I'll tell ya, some of the bullshit I'm reading in this thread baffles me,
MarineCombatEngineer
Sep 2024
#75
What an AR-15 (and similar) CAN DO and DID in these mass shootings from the Congressional Record, no less:
hlthe2b
Sep 2024
#77
How could I be looking for an argument? You already said you were not going to speak on
Scrivener7
Sep 2024
#87
That doesn't really make sense, and what I said was not an innuendo. I stated it pretty directly.
Scrivener7
Sep 2024
#92
Well then, you are directly wholly ignorant of what my hobbies are.
MarineCombatEngineer
Sep 2024
#93
If a person can't hit a deer with a regular rifle or small game with a shotgun, they should not be in the woods.
appleannie1
Sep 2024
#97
Most states ban the use of the .223 round for deer hunting, it's not powerful enough ensure
MarineCombatEngineer
Sep 2024
#99
Yes they do, and I was just getting ready to post such a reply to another post here,
MarineCombatEngineer
Sep 2024
#111
I was told that you have to hunt with a shotgun here in Delaware, we are very small state bullets travel too far
Walleye
Sep 2024
#157
It seems to me that the people who are explaining guns are interested in helping us be accurate
LauraInLA
Sep 2024
#136
Except some of these "explanations" are misleading and derail conversations.
SunSeeker
Sep 2024
#153
For deer, I'd prefer the more powerful AR10 which is chambered to fire more powerful rounds
Kaleva
Sep 2024
#141
I'll just add my 2 cents on the subject. While I haven't hunted or lived in a rural area for years
captain queeg
Sep 2024
#155
The AR15 is a weapon of war...some kid themselves by putting different bullets in but it is not a hunting weapon.
Demsrule86
Sep 2024
#165
A simple question: Why don't any other advanced nations have this problem? We all know the answer.
Doodley
Sep 2024
#180
AR-15 style rifle is the majority/plurality preferred weapon for hunting and killing unarmed school children.
keithbvadu2
Sep 2024
#181
Yet, 250 people shot every weekend with handguns gets less attention here than a AR15 shooting with a few victims
MichMan
Sep 2024
#252
AR-15 style assault rifles were the weapon of choice in our nation's worst (highest death) mass shootings.
SunSeeker
Sep 2024
#270
Have you noticed how defenders of assault weapons point to the mixed stats on whether
Sibelius Fan
Sep 2024
#276
I think it's time to stop letting humpers out of the gungeon after mass shootings.
Scrivener7
Sep 2024
#278