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thucythucy

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9. Avoiding the question yet again.
Sat Sep 7, 2024, 02:31 PM
Sep 2024

The rate of gun violence in the US, including school shootings, is vastly higher than in any comparable developed nation. This makes the overall death by violence much higher here as well. It's simple, really. The use of a firearm vastly increases the chance that a violent interaction will be lethal.

How many dozens of children have been killed in schools this year in any western European nation you care to name? How many killed by guns? Compare that to the number killed in the US thus far this year. What do you see?

Here, I'll help. In Germany, thus far this year, there has been exactly one student shooting. In the US: 288 shootings as of the last count.

Overall, and just by comparison, in 2012, the most recent statistic I could find with a quick Google search, there were a grand total of 62 gun deaths in Germany. In the US in 2014 there were 10,945.

And you seriously believe that easy access to guns in this country has nothing to do with this disparity?

This "it isn't guns, it's people" argument is an old chestnut gun enthusiasts have used for decades. That line is wearing thin, as is "thoughts and prayers."

But then anything to avoid looking at the need for common sense gun regulation.

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it's the Guns [View all] AmBlue Sep 2024 OP
K & R SunSeeker Sep 2024 #1
Yah, it's the gun markie Sep 2024 #2
No, sorry, it is not the guns, it is people. republianmushroom Sep 2024 #3
Yeah, because there are no people thucythucy Sep 2024 #5
70 years ago, when I was in school, there was never a school shooting, republianmushroom Sep 2024 #6
The notion that there were no school shootings "back in the day" is a myth. thucythucy Sep 2024 #7
There was just lately a killing in Europe of 7 people with a knife, was it the knife or was it the person? republianmushroom Sep 2024 #8
Avoiding the question yet again. thucythucy Sep 2024 #9
Thank you for your clear, concise arguments. AmBlue Sep 2024 #10
You blame the gun, I blame the person, I will not change your mind and you will not change mine. republianmushroom Sep 2024 #11
Yes, the guns will still be out there, thucythucy Sep 2024 #12
People are the deciding factor guns are only the means. republianmushroom Sep 2024 #16
So what's the point of any sort of arms control ever? thucythucy Sep 2024 #18
Answer to your question. republianmushroom Sep 2024 #20
So in fact it IS the guns, or the lack thereof, that has and is making the difference. thucythucy Sep 2024 #22
WTI hatrack Sep 2024 #17
You can kill someone with a fucking frying pan edisdead Sep 2024 #14
Well I agree, but, who's common sense, yours or mine, pal ? republianmushroom Sep 2024 #15
By my measure on this issue you have zero edisdead Sep 2024 #21
That was an AR-15, not a pistol. aocommunalpunch Sep 2024 #13
Of course it's the guns. (n/t) Iggo Sep 2024 #4
Some more about this issue: thucythucy Sep 2024 #19
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