Stuff That (Increasingly Desperately Disillusioned) Obama Supporters Say

[Summer Hathaway]

321. Again you take what I have said

and twist into being the exact opposite of what was stated.

I didn't say that I "assumed" DUers would leave during election season. I said that some might leave - those who are only here to rec and/or participate in OPs that put Obama/Dems in a bad light. If such OPs are no longer permitted, they will have no reason to stay.

"Posts that discuss issues are not 'anti-Democratic nominee."

Again you are equating the two - I did not. And if you think I have, you are welcome to point out where I've stated any such thing.

"You said there are people here for no other purpose than to rec negative OPs. That was a pretty definitive statement. But you provided not one iota of proof of that assertion."

Did you want me to name names? That's against the rules, as you well know.

"But to base your judgement of DUers on what they rec or do not rec is not only a poor way of determining whatever it is you think you have determined."

What I have determined - as I've pointed out several times now - is that certain posters consistently rec OPs that put Obama and Dems in a bad light, as well as certain posters who consistently rec OPs that are pro-Obama/pro-Dem.

By your own admission, you "do not generally check who is rec'ing or not rec'ing OPs". Therefore, you are not in a position to comment on that assertion.

"It is a bit disturbing. Now I suppose we all have to 'watch what we rec'?"

Why would you have to "watch what you rec"? Do you rec on the basis of who has access to that information - which includes everyone here?

Again, it was the Admins who added the feature of being able to see who recs a post. If you find that "disturbing", your concerns should be expressed to the Admins.

"I do not agree with you that any longtime DUers are likely to feel the need to leave here during the election."

Thank you for agreeing with something I never said. I doubt that many long-time DUers would leave when election rules are in place. They've been there, done that.

As for those who are here to be shit-disturbers, they are not long-time DUers by any stretch. A lot of them signed up here when the rules were changed to allow criticism of the President and Party that need not be restricted to "constructive criticism".

Some saw that as an open invitation to bash Obama and his Party on a 'democratic website' without restraint, and without breaking the 'new rules'.

"I see an outright attack here in this thread on a DUer who has been accused of being a Rightwing Troll, eg, when anyone who has been here for any length of time knows that to be false."

There are many DUers who have been here a very long time who don't "know that to be false" - and have stated so in many threads.

Sabrina, I have no doubt that you are staunch Democrat whose devotion to the party's principles is admirable.

However, you seem incapable of responding to what I say, as opposed to your 'interpretation' of what I've said - or, more to the point, your insistence that I have said things I didn't say.

You've stated that I said "recs are important", when I said just the opposite. You've stated that I have a "desire to see long-time DUers forced to leave this site" - again, I said no such thing, nor anything even close to it.

You have stated that I equate "discussion of serious issues" with anti-Obama posts, while that was your assertion, not mine.

I signed up on this site in order to discuss things with fellow Democrats - not to have to keep correcting you when you attribute statements to me that I never made, or when you choose to spin my positions into being something that is the complete opposite of what I have said in plain language.

That said, I will bow out of the conversation now. You, of course, are free to continue the discussion you have been having between yourself and the person who has said the things you insist they have said - which most obviously is not me.

All the best to you, sabrina.