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In reply to the discussion: Oh NOES!1! A South Korean rapper said something bad about our TROOPS!!!11!! [View all]MADem
(135,425 posts)159. Abu Ghraib was an equal opportunity clusterfuck.
Specialist Sabrina Harman was sentenced on May 17, 2005 to six months in prison and a bad conduct discharge after being convicted on six of the seven counts. She had faced a maximum sentence of five years.[64] Harman served her sentence at Naval Consolidated Brig, Miramar.[65]
Specialist Megan Ambuhl was convicted on October 30, 2004, of dereliction of duty and sentenced to reduction in rank to private and loss of a half-months pay.[66]
Private First Class Lynndie England was convicted on September 26, 2005, of one count of conspiracy, four counts of maltreating detainees and one count of committing an indecent act. She was acquitted on a second conspiracy count. England had faced a maximum sentence of ten years. She was sentenced on September 27, 2005, to three years confinement, forfeiture of all pay and allowances, reduction to Private (E-1) and received a dishonorable discharge.[61] England had served her sentence at Naval Consolidated Brig, Miramar.[67]
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Specialist Megan Ambuhl was convicted on October 30, 2004, of dereliction of duty and sentenced to reduction in rank to private and loss of a half-months pay.[66]
Private First Class Lynndie England was convicted on September 26, 2005, of one count of conspiracy, four counts of maltreating detainees and one count of committing an indecent act. She was acquitted on a second conspiracy count. England had faced a maximum sentence of ten years. She was sentenced on September 27, 2005, to three years confinement, forfeiture of all pay and allowances, reduction to Private (E-1) and received a dishonorable discharge.[61] England had served her sentence at Naval Consolidated Brig, Miramar.[67]
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ghraib_torture_and_prisoner_abuse#Courts-martial.2C_non-judicial_punishment.2C_and_administrative_reprimands
Two female commissioned officers were reprimanded as well. Who knows the gender of the "other agency" intelligence personnel, or what happened to them? That kind of thing is never publicized.
The notion of women "in the rear with the gear" safely behind the lines rolling bandages and typing up orders is an outdated one, despite the continued limitations (which will soon fall, I suspect) on combat participation. There are no "front lines" anymore--there haven't been for a long, long time, actually.
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Oh NOES!1! A South Korean rapper said something bad about our TROOPS!!!11!! [View all]
Taverner
Dec 2012
OP
One million dead Iraqis. Countless maime, some tortured to death, others scarred
sabrina 1
Dec 2012
#166
Occupying their country? That would be a surprise to the Government of South Korea....
MADem
Dec 2012
#160
"Kill their daughters, mothers, daughters-in-law and fathers ...Kill them all slowly and painfully "
rollin74
Dec 2012
#95
And an actual "I recognize the not-coolness of what I said" apology too; nice. (nt)
Posteritatis
Dec 2012
#151
Yep--it was for real, not one of those "If I offended anyone..." mealymouth things! nt
MADem
Dec 2012
#156
Bill O'Reilly threw a tantrum about Gangnam Style and the media got out their knives. (nt)
Posteritatis
Dec 2012
#139
I actually imagine everyone frothing about this will simply ignore that, sadly.
Posteritatis
Dec 2012
#147
You're either lying about your background in military intelligence or you
coalition_unwilling
Dec 2012
#168
Lol. Are you trying to be funny? Bush wanted to remove the threat of WMDs in Iraq???
sabrina 1
Dec 2012
#167
I'll be fucked! That Lynndie England person at Abu Ghraib sure LOOKED like a woman!
11 Bravo
Dec 2012
#64
I'm getting a good chuckle watching all you hoo-ra types defending our atrocities
Taverner
Dec 2012
#17
you're not doing a very good job of putting words in other people's mouths you know.
dionysus
Dec 2012
#19
Oh forgot, "America, fuck yeah!!! Boot in their ass!!! Love it or leave it!!!"
Taverner
Dec 2012
#14
nothing shows how peaceful and anti war you are like defending the notion of torture killings...
dionysus
Dec 2012
#21
So you are more outraged by these lyrics, than the atrocities our military commits every day
Taverner
Dec 2012
#62
You know, Democrats are allowed to support the troops. It in no way makes us more like Repubs.
great white snark
Dec 2012
#24
Go ahead, put words in my mouth. Tell your employer it's hippie punching time.
Taverner
Dec 2012
#108
I don't believe anybody but US citizens should be setting our foreign policy, first of all.
Daniel537
Dec 2012
#78
How does "maintain an alliance" translate into having thousands of troops occupying their country?
Daniel537
Dec 2012
#91
The current plan is that the ROK will be self sufficient in defense in another few years
jberryhill
Dec 2012
#88
Oh yes, of course, because the only US troops who will do the fighting are the ones in SK
Daniel537
Dec 2012
#133
At least he didn't use the "N" word or try to say something witty about rape
slackmaster
Dec 2012
#66
Well if this offends you you probably shouldn't listen to the Coup, Immortal Technique, Public Enemy
craigmatic
Dec 2012
#67
And that one was interesting - I like how he kind of left the ending hanging
Posteritatis
Dec 2012
#150
True but the best thing about them is that it's leftist music that you can dance to.
craigmatic
Dec 2012
#155
Especially when they have to dig back a decade to find something to get outraged over. (nt)
Posteritatis
Dec 2012
#141
He said it in 2002, as we were filling guantanamo and torturing the shit out of people
bhikkhu
Dec 2012
#162