So IF Hillary is the Democratic nominee in 2016, will you vote for her or stay home?

[graham4anything]

221. Hillary IMHO will be a liberal from the left, unlike Bill was. She is not He. Separate people/paths

so I am not of the opinion that Hillary counts as a dynasty
same as I wouldn't be considering Michelle as a dynasty either

anymore than anyone else who would advance the same as FDR/JFK/LBJ/RFK/Carter/Obama

(excuse me if I do not include Truman on that list. I would have included FDR's prior to HST VP Wallace on that list had he been the final FDR VP)

whereas I would include Jeb as one and the same as he was bred to be from his grandfather and father like W was.

that is the difference IMHO.

No one can say either Michelle nor Barack ever thought of being President from day one
The Bush's have

(and I discount the Kennedy's myself from being a "dynasty" (at least the 3 brothers and the two children of JFK, in that none of them "needed" to be President, Teddy could have retired in 1968 and never done a blessed thing after that and no one would have faulted him.
Teddy, IMHO earned every single election he ever won and some were not easy.

and once he gave up the idea of being President, he became the best senator since LBJ after that, working endlessly for the regular person

and Hillary IMHO has the potential to do the same.(unlike those that keep saying she is tired and will retire, she will prove not to, when that would be easy.
She won't go the easy route, same as she did not cut and run after 2008.
Took a lot of courage to do what she did, and her loyalty earned my vote
(it was not a given, being that I most certainly was not a fan of hers before she took the SOS and earned my vote).

I believe that the Saul Alinsky part of her past is the real Hillary.
And that same philosophy Alinsky fought for his whole life is the community organizer that chicago(a good word) is.

And put it this way-
Jeb and W would not exist without 41 and Prescott

whereas, I do believe Hillary will be where she will be in 2016 IN SPITE of being Bill's first lady.

I do believe that someone like Hillary would have found her way to the top in a different path and be able to be President in 2016 on her own

To lump the two of them together is a great diservice to any individual in the modern age.

I would not believe though Jeb or W(especially W) could have done anything had 41 not come before them(and I believe W got at least 30% of his votes from people who in 2000 thought he was 41 running again and they had no idea he was a son of 41 at all. Yes, I think that side is that stupid.