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In reply to the discussion: Stop Telling Women How to Not Get Raped [View all]ddeclue
(16,733 posts)) There absolutely IS a "friend zone" women divide men into exciting guys and boring guys and boring predictable dependable guys end up in the friend zone.
No... guys they like are guys they like, and guys they like but not like like go in the friend zone.
Not true. This term has appeared in popular culture because it has actual truth to it. Women don't want to "risk" friendships by turning them into relationships and who do they make friends with: reliable trustworthy guys. Who do they date: exciting dangerous guys.
2) What the hell is PUA? My magic decoder ring is broken on that. I know this first hand and it is clearly true. Sorry if you haven't seen it.
It's where all that 'women get drunk to "give themselves permission" to have sex' abhorrent repulsiveness comes from.
How exactly do you think you've "seen this firsthand"? Did a woman sober up and tell you that she was drunk cause she was trying to "give herself permission"? Is that how you found out these magical secrets about us mysterious women?
I don't know what you are talking about. I have observed this behavior FIRSTHAND AND YES actually I have had this conversation and that is exactly what I meant. Sorry if you don't want to believe it.
3) Men don't send out mixed signals. It's not in our nature to do so.
smh
??? SMH???? sorry I don't have your magic acronym decoder...
4) The ones that play games do so because women expect them to do so. Perhaps I should learn.
smh again
?? again with the magic acronyms...
Let me get this straight... so... if women play games, it's cause it's "in their nature", but if men do it, it's cause "women expect them to"?
Wow... just.... wow... and you're whining about some imaginary women who blame men for everything. Project much?
Not imaginary at all.. real life women I've known personally.
5) Yes men really are straightforward. That's just the fact.
... just smh.
Care to spell out smh for me?
6) Yes women by and large are responsible for date rapes in that they choose to go out with creepy guys and have their creepy guy radar set to pick out the lone creep within 100 miles of them while ignoring the guys who won't rape them.
Thanks for repeating it. Really, thank you.
You are quite welcome. I stand by it. Really. I don't care if you are offended or disagree - it's the truth.
7) No I did NOT refer to sex as reward - you inferred something I did not imply. Being a gentleman DOES NOT get me anywhere with women because they view it as not being assertive rather than being respectful. Sorry if you don't live in the real world with your politically correct nonsense but what I am stating is clearly the reality.
Right. In the real world, women don't like gentlemen,
Not in my observation they don't...
and you didn't just say:
"... women need to stop dating "bad boys" and stop rewarding bad behavior in men if they want to avoid the obvious bad consequences that come from dating those same "bad boys"."
Or is it your assertion that you weren't referring to sex when you said women need to stop "rewarding" bad behavior in men? And if not, what exactly were you referring to?
I want more than just "sex" from a woman - I want a full relationship. These bad boys just want sex. Again you are conflating all men together. When women reward bad boy behavior, they should expect it to be reinforced in men who see that it works and that being "a good boy" doesn't.