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15. No one is going to seriously consider seceding. Period.

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If Republican trickery with their refusal to certify the election, so the republican house determines the election, [View all] JohnSJ Sep 18 OP

When we know Harris wins and Republicans install Trump..... OAITW r.2.0 Sep 18 #1

I sure don't have confidence in the SC protecting our Democracy JohnSJ Sep 18 #2

Just no because if you break the deal you face the wheel TheKentuckian Sep 18 #3

We came very close to losing our democracy on January 6th, and the republicans in the house are even worse now than they JohnSJ Sep 18 #4

It'll be the NEXT House of Repesentatives that is sworn in the beginning of January 2025 so we have to make sure Jmb 4 Harris-Walz Sep 18 #5

You missed the point... Think. Again. Sep 18 #7

January 3rd is when the newly elected House and Senate are supposed to be in place. What happens if they aren't? JohnSJ Sep 18 #8

I suspect the lawsuits and other chaos will be started right after the elections on November 5... Think. Again. Sep 18 #11

I think any lawsuits started by Trump or his campaign will be for Trump only, not any down ballot candidates. CrispyQ Sep 19 #32

I don't think trump would miss the opportunity... Think. Again. Sep 19 #34

Have you read the CREW report? Fiendish Thingy Sep 18 #19

Wonderful stuff!, very comforting... Think. Again. Sep 19 #20

How should civilians prepare to fight back against something that won't happen? Fiendish Thingy Sep 19 #21

I guess you and I will just have to wait and see... Think. Again. Sep 19 #22

I agree Trump will be "absolutely awful" and will try just about anything Fiendish Thingy Sep 19 #23

Yes JohnSJ Sep 18 #9

I think we should all start thinking about... Think. Again. Sep 18 #6

A massive general strike is never going to happen. Not in today's America. CrispyQ Sep 19 #36

It might turn out to be our only option. Think. Again. Sep 19 #38

Let's hope not cuz IMO things will have to be seriously grim before that happens. -nt CrispyQ Sep 19 #39

Yes, having trump succeeding in getting back the White House... Think. Again. Sep 19 #40

My question is USAFRetired_Liberal Sep 18 #10

Causing confusion and chaos is the rightwing plan... Think. Again. Sep 18 #12

See my reply #17 below Fiendish Thingy Sep 18 #18

Their efforts to cause chaos and confusion... Think. Again. Sep 19 #41

They caused chaos and confusion in 2020, and still lost Fiendish Thingy Sep 19 #43

Yes, and Ted Bundy once failed one of his earliest murder attempts. Think. Again. Sep 19 #44

Bundy had a better track record of "success" than Trump has. nt Fiendish Thingy Sep 19 #48

Thanks' USAFRetired_Liberal Sep 19 #47

Certifying an election is a legal requirement. lees1975 Sep 18 #13

Until the SCOTUS says it's ok Diraven Sep 18 #14

SCOTUS can't. Election law is state law. Law is already written and has been enforced. lees1975 Sep 19 #33

No one is going to seriously consider seceding. Period. onenote Sep 18 #15

if trickery... myohmy2 Sep 18 #16

Good lord, this is at least the third thread fretting about this false notion on the first page of latest threads Fiendish Thingy Sep 18 #17

I suspect one of the first challenges... Think. Again. Sep 19 #24

That is a HUGE "if". Fiendish Thingy Sep 19 #25

I think that's the crux if the whole thing... Think. Again. Sep 19 #27

So, as I said before: Fiendish Thingy Sep 19 #42

What if a rightwing Governor decides to not do that? Think. Again. Sep 19 #45

NV and GA are the only swing states with a GOP governor Fiendish Thingy Sep 19 #49

I'll rephrase the question... Think. Again. Sep 19 #53

OK, what if? Fiendish Thingy Sep 19 #55

Here's my hypothetical... Think. Again. Sep 19 #57

Unserious response Fiendish Thingy Sep 19 #58

Ha! you probably would have said the same thing if 4 years ago I wrote... Think. Again. Sep 19 #59

January 6 is far more believable than your original scenario Fiendish Thingy Sep 19 #60

I guess we'll see if trump does yet another... Think. Again. Sep 20 #61

He already is, as his desperation grows Fiendish Thingy Sep 20 #64

Not happening. Courts will slap them down, biggly. pat_k Sep 19 #26

You seem to be willing to trust rightwing courts more than I do. Think. Again. Sep 19 #29

Where someone is trying to usurp their power, yes. pat_k Sep 19 #31

In 2022, Arizona's courts slapped down two county supervisors who failed to certify by the deadline. lees1975 Sep 19 #35

Yep, they'll be trying all of that too. Think. Again. Sep 19 #37

also - Biden is now immune as President and can do whatever he wants samsingh Sep 19 #28

The new Congress snowybirdie Sep 19 #30

How could a new Congress be sworn in... Think. Again. Sep 19 #46

Congress is not the body being certified snowybirdie Sep 19 #50

When a state certifies (or doesn't certify) it's votes... Think. Again. Sep 19 #54

All I know snowybirdie Sep 19 #56

By then, hopefully, the Dems will be the majority in the House. OLDMDDEM Sep 19 #51

YES!!! JohnSJ Sep 19 #52

You have very little faith in Biden handling the situation. Kaleva Sep 20 #62

I have confidence in Harris' and our Democratic leaders.. Not willing to entertain this paranoia. Chakaconcarne Sep 20 #63