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Catherina

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80. Press conference on Const Declaration & Referendum - details
Sat Dec 8, 2012, 06:28 PM
Dec 2012

Iyad El-Baghdadi ‏@iyad_elbaghdadi

Mohammad Salim El-Awa: A new constitutional declaration will be issued. #Egypt


Iyad El-Baghdadi ‏@iyad_elbaghdadi

Mohammad Salim El-Awa: Consitutional referendum will be postponed.

- Mohammad Salim El-Awa was one of the people who met with #Morsi today for talks, that's why he's reading the statement

- Mohammad Salim El-Awa is a moderate Islamist figure, an author, and also ran for president of #Egypt

- Mohammad Salim El-Awa: There has been consensus on holding the referendum in time on December 15th

- (OK, I'm confused now, it seems the referendum will not be postponed?)

- Mohammad Salim El-Awa: Constitutional declaration cancelled.

- Mohammad Salim El-Awa: Constitutional referendum to be held next Saturday, December 15th.

- Mohammad Salim El-Awa: In case constutional referendum does not pass, new one to be elected directly by the people.

- Mohammad Salim El-Awa: This constitutional declaration also cannot be repealed by the judiciary.

- Mohammad Salim El-Awa: What's really happened isn't really a cancellation but a replacement of one declaration with another.

- Mohammad Salim El-Awa: Investigations will be relaunched into murder of protesters since Jan25 even in cases already found innocent.

- In short, constitutional referendum in time, constitutional declaration repealed.

- In other words that dangerous rushed constitution will still be put up to the vote.

- Somehow I prefer if the constitutional declaration remained but the constitutional referendum was postponed.

- I had described El-Awa as a moderate but many people have corrected me on that. >>> """@iyad_elbaghdadi not a totally accurate description. Awa was also SCAF ally & has said some awful things about copts, so not so "moderate" """

- If, and only if, the constitutional referendum is shot down, a new one will be elected through direct vote by the people.

- Sorry I'm typing fast, fortgive any mistakes.

- OK, summary one more time...

- The proposed constitution will not be changed, and the referendum will take place on time (in a week)

- The November 21 constitutional declaration is cancelled and replaced with this one.

- This constitutional declaration also cannot be repealed by the judiciary.

- If the proposed constitution does not pass, a new constitutional committee will be elected directly by the people.

- If the proposed constitution passes, then I forgot what's the deal (new elections maybe?) Can't remember.

- That was a quick not-too-short summary

- El-Awa was reading this because he attended the "talks" with Morsi today; most opposition figures did not show up.

- Bear in mind that El-Awa is "opposition" to Morsi in the same sense that, say, Wolfowitz is opposition to Bush. He's not opposition: he's an advisor to President Morsi.

@hahellyer "Create your own opposition and then have a dialogue with it". #ArabTyrantManual


- #Egypt: If you're not confused, you haven't been paying attention.


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"And let’s be honest: The Obama administration has been Morsi’s main enabler." Catherina Dec 2012 #1
Taking sides in Intra-Muslim wars and alliances has been the undoing of US power and policy in MENA. leveymg Dec 2012 #7
With imperialism, the second verse is same as the first...... socialist_n_TN Dec 2012 #17
The term that's used for the unwelcome consequences of that is "blowback". leveymg Dec 2012 #18
thank you for keeping us updated. babydollhead Dec 2012 #2
Thank you for reading them :) n/t Catherina Dec 2012 #4
So there was a meeting with Morsi today Catherina Dec 2012 #3
Major opposition players did not attend Catherina Dec 2012 #6
Morsi has left the national dialogue session, left it to the VP to manage. Catherina Dec 2012 #9
Prominent writer, often described as moderate islamist, Fahmi Howeidi has left after minutes Catherina Dec 2012 #11
reports claim he left due to "prior engagements," which is quite strange.... Catherina Dec 2012 #12
I'm finally catching up on this! Starry Messenger Dec 2012 #5
And I'm falling totally behind today Catherina Dec 2012 #8
I'm sooooo dreaming that the military stands down and honors the will of the secular democrats. nt Zorra Dec 2012 #10
MB claiming dead protesters were MB members Catherina Dec 2012 #13
MB: we'll not allow revolution to be hijacked again, have tapes that show regional & global conspir Catherina Dec 2012 #14
Apparently it's no longer "Israel and the US" but the Gulf States and Mubaratchiks Catherina Dec 2012 #15
Perhaps, the Saudis/GCC are in partial alignment with the US and Israel? Isn't that the Old Regime? leveymg Dec 2012 #21
Well what makes no sense is that Morsi's their man Catherina Dec 2012 #25
We would attempt to coopt Mohammed himself. But the efforts to coopt Morsi are not coherent leveymg Dec 2012 #50
Thank you. I agree with what you wrote Catherina Dec 2012 #56
More oil off the world market, spot prices rise, it's good for the Saudis and bad for us. leveymg Dec 2012 #66
seriously depressing n/t Catherina Dec 2012 #67
See post 35 Catherina Dec 2012 #36
The Saudis are always so damn obvious. They're helpless without Bushies to show them how to do it. leveymg Dec 2012 #54
I was really expecting more finesse. I guess they're in too much of a rush n/t Catherina Dec 2012 #55
Egypt's army will not allow violence, says armed forces spokesperson Catherina Dec 2012 #16
VIDEO: Marches converge at Presidential Palace (today) Catherina Dec 2012 #19
MB posts video torturing protesters, then confesses to spying on opposition & secretly recording Catherina Dec 2012 #20
Morsy bows out of national dialogue to ensure neutrality Catherina Dec 2012 #22
How do you see this all ending up? oberliner Dec 2012 #23
I don't see this going anywhere good sadly Catherina Dec 2012 #29
Thank you for sharing those insights oberliner Dec 2012 #32
My gut feeling and observations Catherina Dec 2012 #37
Another sad answer to you Catherina Dec 2012 #39
That is, indeed, a sad answer oberliner Dec 2012 #40
I'd really like that too! Catherina Dec 2012 #49
Thank you for this Catherina. polly7 Dec 2012 #42
I hope for one too but I'm not holding my breath Catherina Dec 2012 #43
VIDEO - Army builds concrete wall in front of the presidential palace Catherina Dec 2012 #24
Ex-MP accuses Muslim Brotherhood of assaulting him Catherina Dec 2012 #26
Saudi official: Gulf cannot 'tolerate' unrest Catherina Dec 2012 #27
Good AM PST Catherina - Union Scribe re-opened the closed thread?? PufPuf23 Dec 2012 #28
Egyptian Demonstration in Toronto Blasts U.S. for Supporting “Dictator Morsi” Catherina Dec 2012 #30
Is Mursi Obama's "b-tch" in that placard? oberliner Dec 2012 #33
Yes... it's a sign that's been seen a lot in Egypt too Catherina Dec 2012 #41
So the people protesting against Morsi do not want to keep the peace deal with Israel? oberliner Dec 2012 #45
No, that's not what I meant. I can't speak for them Catherina Dec 2012 #61
OK - got it oberliner Dec 2012 #74
That means a lot. Thanks O n/t Catherina Dec 2012 #75
New public prosecutor: keep 'arrested' in jail after morsi speech so as not to "embarrass him". Catherina Dec 2012 #31
Egypt's president in national dialogue, opposition attendance feeble Catherina Dec 2012 #34
Saudi Embassy distributing pamphlets with draft constitution written on saying 'VOTE YES' Catherina Dec 2012 #35
Salafis demand closure of secualar, liberal media organs. Catherina Dec 2012 #38
What kind of support do the Salafis have there? oberliner Dec 2012 #46
The Saudis/GCC probably have more money in the game than we do at this point. See #25. leveymg Dec 2012 #51
Are the Salafis controlled by the Saudis? oberliner Dec 2012 #76
Where does influence and funding end, and control start? leveymg Dec 2012 #85
Analysts saying that military statement today means that if EVERY1 does not find solution, they will Catherina Dec 2012 #44
National Association for Change NAC press conference Catherina Dec 2012 #47
White house protest against Morsi Catherina Dec 2012 #48
Why anti-Mursi protesters are right Catherina Dec 2012 #52
It's "Morsi" and there's better MI5 propagandaon BBC.co.uk allrevvedup Dec 2012 #53
UK tried that in '56, and all they got for their trouble was reinstatement of gas rationing. leveymg Dec 2012 #57
Plus ça change. . . allrevvedup Dec 2012 #62
"until Egypt is just another over-mortgaged African basket case" Catherina Dec 2012 #63
Take a bow. n/t allrevvedup Dec 2012 #65
Pic: Pharoah In front of the Presidential Palace Catherina Dec 2012 #58
Morsi to issue a new decree today. n/t Catherina Dec 2012 #59
Interview with Yehya Negma, former Egy ambassador in Venezuela, severely tortured by MB Catherina Dec 2012 #60
3 major developments: new const. decl. underway, Salafists besieging media outlets, general strike Catherina Dec 2012 #64
PM Kandil will announce a constitutional declaration soon to end the political tension Catherina Dec 2012 #68
CNN grossly inflates the pro-Mosti numbers Catherina Dec 2012 #69
New constitutional declaration to be issued within hours Catherina Dec 2012 #70
MB channel claiming the church was bussing thugs (protesters) with weapons Catherina Dec 2012 #71
Cracks in the MB. MB Beltagy won't play along with these lies about armed masses and church busses Catherina Dec 2012 #72
MB channel peddling some particularly reprehensible sectarian garbage right now. Catherina Dec 2012 #73
I would love to ask Beltagy or Misr 25: Catherina Dec 2012 #77
airs dangerous sectarian language like this and then acts confused about minorities not trusting Catherina Dec 2012 #79
Breaking: Morsy's decree cancelled, constitutional referendum to take place on time Catherina Dec 2012 #78
Press conference on Const Declaration & Referendum - details Catherina Dec 2012 #80
referendum's threshold is simple majority (50.1%), much too low for a constitution Catherina Dec 2012 #82
BREAKING: Morsi cancels executive immunity decree Catherina Dec 2012 #81
Morsi cancels temporary power grab, insists on vote on permanent power grab enabled by temporary po Catherina Dec 2012 #83
Continuing Part 2 here Catherina Dec 2012 #84
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