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rog

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6. Is this really how it happened? I looked at the supposedly incriminating video ...
Sat Sep 21, 2024, 12:10 PM
Sep 2024

Last edited Sat Sep 21, 2024, 12:49 PM - Edit history (1)

... posted on xitter, and it just showed a long shot of the stage with someone doing a pro-Palestine speech which instigated some call-and-response from the crowd. The camera was located on the fringe of the crowd, and a panning shot showed no one that I could see wearing a 'colonizer' blue shirt. Ultimately it showed a few middle school aged kids standing around, casually talking to each other, laughing, and checking out the scene. Two of the kids held a banner that simply said 'River Run'. They were not even close to demonstrating.

I don't see any photos or videos that show people wearing masks.

The event is described here: a walk at Grange Park, a chance to hear from affected First Nations re. mercury pollution at Grassy Narrows. https://ontarionature.org/event/grassy-narrows-river-run-2024/

The two most likely explanations seem to be:

1. the First Nations event was infiltrated by protesters whose concerns have nothing to do with mercury and are halfway around the world, or ...

2. the students went to a different rally.

My uneducated guess is that it might be #1.

Edited to add that this article has a photo at the top of the article that shows someone with a bandana holding a pro-Palestine banner ... he is an adult with a beard, standing next to another adult. The article includes a Xitter post that I imagine is intended to be incriminating, posted by the Elementary Teachers of Toronto.

In that post, there are 3 photos of a peaceful march in support of First Nation rights, none of which appear to show middle school kids. All the people in the foreground appear to be adults ... 'maybe' teachers? Is this even associated with the field trip? I don't see any evidence, or any reference to the field trip ... just teachers marching in solidarity. The caption in the post simply says, "Marching the streets with students, parents & teachers united in our demand for justice for @FreeGrassy. Clean water is a human right. We’re here to ensure that right is honoured for all communities. Together we can create a future where every child thrives with clean water & air."

Also, the School Board is looking into this.

What I saw in a search was the same article posted verbatim in many different tabloid-type publications, many of which had embedded Xitter inks. I imagine the situation is a lot more nuanced than is reported here, and that the students were caught in a protest cross-fire. I'll wait to find out if there was coercion on the part of the teachers, but on the surface that just sounds like a stretch.

I'm also willing to be convinced otherwise.

.rog.

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Whatever actually happened, the story's about Toronto CANADA struggle4progress Sep 2024 #1
It is. And if it happened in Nurenberg Germany, it would be of great concern to us in the US too. Beastly Boy Sep 2024 #2
Toronto CANADA seems to be handling their own issues just fine struggle4progress Sep 2024 #3
They didn't have the need to handle it just fine a year ago. And that's the point, isn't it? Beastly Boy Sep 2024 #5
Should take a look at the Oakland, CA school district some time Sympthsical Sep 2024 #4
Are we only allowed to speak of antisemitism sarisataka Sep 2024 #7
Some would prefer if we didn't bring up antisemitism at all. orange jar Sep 2024 #13
It Appears So.. I can't even with that post. Cha Sep 2024 #32
What does the fact it's in CANADA kcr Sep 2024 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author orange jar Sep 2024 #11
omg.. brilliant. Cha Sep 2024 #31
Is this really how it happened? I looked at the supposedly incriminating video ... rog Sep 2024 #6
As per the article, this is what "Canadian media and government officials reported on Friday." Beastly Boy Sep 2024 #9
Just pointing out that Pasternak has an agenda. rog Sep 2024 #14
Being Jewish is not an agenda. Beastly Boy Sep 2024 #18
Maybe I just should have said he has a particular point of view. rog Sep 2024 #19
Maybe you should have. Beastly Boy Sep 2024 #21
Yikes ... ok ... duly chastised. My apology still stands, though. rog Sep 2024 #23
Yeah, you most Definitely Should Have. Vast Difference. Cha Sep 2024 #33
Again, duly chastised. Not sure why an apology needs further spanking, but the apology still stands. rog Sep 2024 #41
Just curious how Pasternak's statement, above ... rog Sep 2024 #15
It is the account of an alleged victim's relative. Beastly Boy Sep 2024 #20
Jeez. 'Alleged' victim, teacher 'allegedly' responded. rog Sep 2024 #25
We are not in court. Beastly Boy Sep 2024 #26
While I don't have first-hand experience, I believe I understand. rog Sep 2024 #28
Obviously, the photo you base your skepticism on does not depict the entire event. Beastly Boy Sep 2024 #35
Fair enough. rog Sep 2024 #40
I looked at the article itself, which is dated today, this year. Jerusalem Post is considered a legit source. Hekate Sep 2024 #16
Can you show me a picture or video of middle school students protesting against Israel? rog Sep 2024 #22
Can you? Hekate Sep 2024 #24
You didn't see the photo in the post above ... rog Sep 2024 #27
If it's a legitimate source, you should be able to provide one picture to back up your claim questionseverything Sep 2024 #29
My claim? The article is written in words. In the English language, which is the native tongue of most here. Hekate Sep 2024 #30
The article says "allegedly " which is not the claim you made questionseverything Sep 2024 #36
Interesting coincidence sarisataka Sep 2024 #8
That's scary... Beastly Boy Sep 2024 #12
What a coinkydink Hekate Sep 2024 #17
""You'll get over it." That's Scary. Appreciate you Reporting this from CANADA! Cha Sep 2024 #34
Mahalo, Cha Beastly Boy Sep 2024 #37
Your're Welcome, Beastly Boy. Cha Sep 2024 #38
The far right and far left bend and meet at antisemitism. nt LexVegas Sep 2024 #39
Yep... speaks well for Neither. Cha Sep 2024 #42
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