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33. The first step

Sat Dec 8, 2012, 11:08 PM

Dec 2012

The first step should be to lower the eligibility age to 62, the same as Social Security. This would allow people to retire early if they wanted, and supplement their SS benefits (and any employer-based retirement) with part time work or starting their own businesses. This would also help unemployment, and put a higher percentage of people on Medicare with somewhat lower medical costs.

I'm fortunate - I could retire today (at 58) and continue to receive health insurance from my employer until Medicare kicks in, but I know many others aren't so lucky. My wife and I run a reasonably thriving part-time business, and I'm counting the days until I'm 62 and I can retire and can collect SS and my employer account to supplement my business earnings.

Raising the age is crazy -

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Fuck you to those who say Medicare age eligibility needs to be changed upward. [View all] trumad Dec 2012 OP

OK, I'll take the hit. Medicare age eligibility needs to be changed. Jackpine Radical Dec 2012 #1

Edited---thanks for the advice trumad Dec 2012 #3

While youi were at it you could have edited out the obscenity in your subject line.... George II Dec 2012 #56

Fuck that. trumad Dec 2012 #57

right on SemperEadem Dec 2012 #71

I'll second that motion. nt patrice Dec 2012 #85

Double fuck it. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #121

I thought there was a minimum age limit on this site? George II Dec 2012 #122

We don't really enforce it, so you are safe. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #138

I rest my case. George II Dec 2012 #145

You have a case of something alright RegieRocker Dec 2012 #152

I have no objection to the use of that word, but the way it was used was offensive to me and.... George II Dec 2012 #127

No===as you can see by this thread...its just you. trumad Dec 2012 #128

oh no it wasn't DrDan Dec 2012 #134

Oh---forgot about you Doc. trumad Dec 2012 #135

It's just me who commented - how many just didn't bother at all? How many potential NEW members? George II Dec 2012 #144

Give it up George. trumad Dec 2012 #146

Thanks for the laugh. sarcasmo Dec 2012 #149

+1 sarcasmo Dec 2012 #148

You miss good stuff when you allow words to offend you. iemitsu Dec 2012 #61

You are probably missing some great books if you stop reading when naughty words are used world wide wally Dec 2012 #64

I wasn't aware this was the Democratic Puritan Underground n/t markpkessinger Dec 2012 #73

I bet George Carlin isn't one of your favorites either. RC Dec 2012 #76

As a matter of fact he WAS my favorite, but he was a comedian - there's a time and a place for that. George II Dec 2012 #123

Words exist sulphurdunn Dec 2012 #77

Brings up a classic! AAO Dec 2012 #83

I am with you George - I very rarely read posts with frivolous profanity DrDan Dec 2012 #79

You think OP is telling us that he/we should have sexual intercourse with everyone with whom patrice Dec 2012 #82

ridiculous . . . I just typically ignore posts with frivilous profanity . . . DrDan Dec 2012 #86

If you think it is profanity, that's YOU, and it's kind of ODD to say the least, so why should patrice Dec 2012 #87

I didn't ask you to conform to anything, now did I? DrDan Dec 2012 #88

Why do you NEED to display what you will or will not do? If what you don't do were patrice Dec 2012 #91

and why do you feel the NEED to criticize my choice of posts to read? DrDan Dec 2012 #93

Why didn't you just not read it? Why do you NEED to publicly judge others? nt patrice Dec 2012 #96

I simpy agreed with the post DrDan Dec 2012 #97

Tell me why both of you didn't just choose to not read the dirty post. What's the purpose of your patrice Dec 2012 #100

and your concern over this is quite a mystery. Why do you concern yourself with DrDan Dec 2012 #102

As much a mystery as yours. nt patrice Dec 2012 #105

For me, I was hoping that it would bring some maturity to the site...that was wishful thinking. George II Dec 2012 #124

I'd stay very far away from reddit if I were you. Warren Stupidity Dec 2012 #139

BECAUSE IT WAS PLASTERED ON THE DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND HOME PAGE!!!!!! George II Dec 2012 #159

Believe me, if any of us is actually proposing sex, you won't be as confused about it as patrice Dec 2012 #89

not worthy of a response DrDan Dec 2012 #90

Unlike your #56, I don't NEED one. nt patrice Dec 2012 #92

56 was not mine - pay attention DrDan Dec 2012 #95

You're supporting it. patrice Dec 2012 #98

so why does that bother you so much? DrDan Dec 2012 #99

It bothers me because you are not answering my questions about it. What purpose does it patrice Dec 2012 #101

why do you assume I made a mistake about the OP's meaning? DrDan Dec 2012 #103

You called it profanity. Doesn't that mean that you think OP refers to sexual activity or patrice Dec 2012 #107

don't know how to make it any clearer . . . I often ignore posts with frivilous profanity DrDan Dec 2012 #108

So, how other people feel is "frivilous" (sic)? & You avoid telling me what is profane patrice Dec 2012 #110

why does this bother you so much . . . DrDan Dec 2012 #112

Admit that your post wasn't just about reading what you want. It may be about someone else patrice Dec 2012 #115

whatever . . . I will continue to ignore or read as I choose . . . and post accordingly DrDan Dec 2012 #116

Wow. Hypocrite. Whose "unsolicited" and BASELESS analysis started this? patrice Dec 2012 #117

I made no analysis - if you would have paid attention DrDan Dec 2012 #132

k, so you rejected something that you made no effort to understand in the first place. patrice Dec 2012 #150

as I said - I rarely read posts with frivolous profanity DrDan Dec 2012 #157

Once again, tell us all & quit your diversions: You think OP is saying all of us should have sex patrice Dec 2012 #151

I guess you think this is clever . . . you have said it multiple times. DrDan Dec 2012 #158

It's been fun. I found out what I needed to know. Going to put some Deadmau5 on & get on patrice Dec 2012 #118

"intentionally mistake OP's meaning" DrDan Dec 2012 #106

What exactly is your objection to the word "fuck"? Why is it a problem for you? patrice Dec 2012 #109

what is your objection to someone ignoring certain posts? Why is that a problem for you? DrDan Dec 2012 #111

You could have done that without publicly judging OP, what was the motive for your display? patrice Dec 2012 #113

not at all . . . I just typically ignore them DrDan Dec 2012 #114

Poor George---poor Dan... trumad Dec 2012 #129

never made any claims to living style - only reading preferences DrDan Dec 2012 #133

Seriously trumad Dec 2012 #136

I made a comment to George - that's hijacking? seriously. DrDan Dec 2012 #140

You made close to 20 posts regarding the use of the stupid word. trumad Dec 2012 #142

I believe it was Patrice that did the hijacking - if you read more carefully DrDan Dec 2012 #143

It bothers me because I'm confused how someone could think OP is telling us all to have sex patrice Dec 2012 #104

Frivolous my ass DainBramaged Dec 2012 #120

never said I was better than anyone - please do not put words in my mouth DrDan Dec 2012 #131

You already put your pompous foot in your mouth DainBramaged Dec 2012 #160

because I am selective about what I read? DrDan Dec 2012 #161

You must read them. Otherwise you wouldn't be throwing your 2 cents worth in. hobbit709 Dec 2012 #137

check out the definition of "rarely" DrDan Dec 2012 #141

If I use the word "black" in a certain context do you always assume that I'm patrice Dec 2012 #81

"Black" isn't considered profanity, and the word in question has little in common with "black" George II Dec 2012 #126

Bullshit DainBramaged Dec 2012 #119

+1 limpyhobbler Dec 2012 #5

Oh, Canada. aquart Dec 2012 #8

I agree...and laugh at all the righties that want to move there as a result of Obama's re-election! George II Dec 2012 #125

+1000 DeSwiss Dec 2012 #25

Whew! I almost jumped all over your ass! ReRe Dec 2012 #32

+1,000,000 Auggie Dec 2012 #50

All you Socialist-haters out there, please think how this would free up ENTREPRENEURSHIP!! patrice Dec 2012 #78

It does need to be changed. It should cover from "cradle to grave"; however, I know that's not what retread Dec 2012 #2

I notice only highly paid men who sit at desks are supporting it Warpy Dec 2012 #4

Oh, but now we are hearing about a "carve out" for people who have had hard physical work all CTyankee Dec 2012 #9

No shit. People who do hard physical work now have to apply Warpy Dec 2012 #37

a friend of ours, a plumber for 32 years, tried to get disability but has given up. He is 62 and has CTyankee Dec 2012 #45

Both my brothers have worked ... AnneD Dec 2012 #48

our heaven05 Dec 2012 #15

Yeah, highly paid men behind desks will live longer if some infectious disease doesn't get them 1st fasttense Dec 2012 #54

Yes, giving all those unemployed people over 50 SOME reliable income Lydia Leftcoast Dec 2012 #69

Raising the Medicare age will COST money... Bigmack Dec 2012 #6

windshield wipers on a ducks ass limpyhobbler Dec 2012 #13

Paying the penalty for NO INSURANCE HockeyMom Dec 2012 #7

K&R forestpath Dec 2012 #10

This leaked story is a trial balloon to gauge public reaction Samantha Dec 2012 #11

If we had Aerows Dec 2012 #12

Fucking A. Fuck 'em sideways. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2012 #14

It doesn't. Medicare should be available nationwide to anyone who needs it. Period. geckosfeet Dec 2012 #16

This fucking backward-ass, unfair, disproportionate wage Country has plenty.. BlueJazz Dec 2012 #17

Fuck them JEB Dec 2012 #18

Some jobs can't really be done by 55 year olds and yet they are expected to do it Cleita Dec 2012 #19

Ezra Klein did a great burnsei sensei Dec 2012 #20

I contacted the president & my members of congress to let them know I'm against the age being raised xxxsdesdexxx Dec 2012 #27

$11b in economic costs for about $3b savings, wasn't it? DirkGently Dec 2012 #94

Well said. nm rhett o rick Dec 2012 #21

I honestly don't believe there will be social security or medicare when I retire. I don't think I madinmaryland Dec 2012 #22

Raising Medicare eligibility age = mass murder n/t eridani Dec 2012 #23

Yes...most definitely. nt snappyturtle Dec 2012 #26

+1 nt Zorra Dec 2012 #24

My friend's husband lost his job at 64 LittleGirl Dec 2012 #28

Entitlements Madmiddle Dec 2012 #29

Sure, John2 Dec 2012 #74

I see your 'Fuck You' and raise you a 'Fuck You Scumbags !!!' RagAss Dec 2012 #30

I'm for lowering the age to birth minus 9 months louis c Dec 2012 #31

The first step naturallyselected Dec 2012 #33

My employer told me I could retire at 62 with full employee heath insurance doc03 Dec 2012 #44

WOW! trumad Dec 2012 #47

It's not very good insurance compared to our employee insurance doc03 Dec 2012 #52

My sister, now 65, was planning to SheilaT Dec 2012 #66

Relax... it's a balloon. ReRe Dec 2012 #34

Am I missing something? Generic Brad Dec 2012 #35

O yes abelenkpe Dec 2012 #55

What 62? rickyhall Dec 2012 #36

i'm 57 too shanti Dec 2012 #40

You can still get SS at 62 I started in 2010 at 62. doc03 Dec 2012 #43

thanks, i thought as much shanti Dec 2012 #62

I was promised by my employer if I retired at 62 that I would have doc03 Dec 2012 #72

You can still retire at 62 if you can afford it, if you don't get doc03 Dec 2012 #42

I join you with the FU. The age should be lowered to zero. Sunlei Dec 2012 #38

Serious or not, this chipping away at the social contract is what Republicans depend on. ancianita Dec 2012 #39

Indeed Oilwellian Dec 2012 #41

IMO, more and more college-educated people aren't able to find good jobs with benes. raccoon Dec 2012 #46

K&R - with !!!!! bread_and_roses Dec 2012 #49

obama created a monster with the simpson-bowles commission. tomp Dec 2012 #51

Even college educated people with reasonably good jobs and adequate health insurance can LibDemAlways Dec 2012 #53

i fully expect to work till i die. KG Dec 2012 #58

K&R midnight Dec 2012 #59

Tax cuts caused our national debt. Raising taxes is the only solution JackHughes Dec 2012 #60

Looks like someone had a cow about your post but didn't get far hobbit709 Dec 2012 #63

I think someone above objected to the word Fuck. trumad Dec 2012 #65

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Dec 2012 #68

Happy to rec this. nt Union Scribe Dec 2012 #67

My mom was so looking forward to Medicare, but she died of cancer 15 days before turning 65. Still Blue in PDX Dec 2012 #70

I'm very sorry for your loss ... sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #75

No, just remove the cap. AAO Dec 2012 #80

Certain ideas need to be dropped into a chipper shredder kenny blankenship Dec 2012 #84

Yes it should Lithos Dec 2012 #130

For those who think President Obama doesn't want these changes Oilwellian Dec 2012 #147

I must certainly RegieRocker Dec 2012 #153

I agree. But there is a person here who has been pushing that meme hard. stevenleser Dec 2012 #154

It is coming warrprayer Dec 2012 #155

I'm making a video on that very subject Oilwellian Dec 2012 #156