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In reply to the discussion: "Suddenly, America’s Top Corporate Leaders Are Shunning Tea Party Extremism" [View all]freshwest
(53,661 posts)better handling by government. The problem I see is that people have forgotten intentions. Do we want to find solutions to problems or do we want to make money not finding solutions and making the problems go on forever - the intent being - to serve who?
I suggest that some things are quite simple, if you just get agreement on a few simple facts of life. Agreeing first of all, what are the necessities, such as food, water, air, etc. Then the bigger decision comes into play. Who is the rightful owner of said things, or do they belong to every living thing?
Democrats have been making just the case against an entrenched, regressive belief system for many years, but instead of convincing our political opposites, they have grown stronger. Because they also know what is essential to life and want to control it. But the second issue, ownership, is where we differ so much.
Democrats, or at least the ones I grew up with and still work to keep in office, believe those essentials belong to everyone and everything. We got the Endangered Species Act passed, which in a way enshrines that belief system - its intention being to protect life from economic forces. For years we've been fighting the same foes, who see everything in terms of money. Healthcare, education and other social democratic ideas are something they don't regard as a human rights, but a chance for profit.
The ultimate in profit is to impoverish the work force, make everything had and costly to obtain, and then the icing on the cake, shove the tax burden on other people and never pay any.
We are approaching the installation of an aristocracy here. In those older societies, the rich never paid, they were always paid by the others. Since they were considered by reason of birth and inheritance worthy of owning everything.
In Norway, the government owns almost everything. And they do everything primarily as a unified society, with the goals of sustaining not the wealth of a few, but the well-being of many and their environment. Surely, they are not perfect. No country is. And they have their disagreements and troubles. But the second issue for them is settled.
In this country, we are either going to go toward a fascist or feudal society, and we see some signs of it gaining hold, or we can use the only unified force we have been able to muster against it. Giving up is not an option, the GOP and the reactionaries won't, because, and this is the only thing I will say that they have going for them is a certain belief.
There is a natural progression in human societies as they get older to either go to that social model or fight it out and remain a democracy. They want to go with what they see as natural and a vision they believe God wants. We don't want to live under their vision and have our lives consigned by birth or circumstance.