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146. The article co authored by Green Party Bob Fitrakis is hyperbole

Sat Jan 21, 2012, 01:26 AM

Jan 2012

I'm voting for Obama in 2012 as well, and while I agree that it is not a high mark for his Presidency...to use hyperbole in order to cause FEAR is over the top. Death knell and Apocalypse? please! The authors need to worry more about how to fix this than using hyperbolic terms in order to scare up readers. More readers and hits...more money in their pockets. What gets me is there doesn't seem to be very many news outlets/media out there willing to tell the straight truth instead of using buzz words and hyperbole laden articles in order to line their pockets with more money. People just take it and run with it instead of writing Congress and flooding their lines which would matter more because that is where the true problem lies right now.

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"President Barack Obama has signed a death knell for the Bill of Rights." [View all] Better Believe It Jan 2012 OP

Keep trying...nt SidDithers Jan 2012 #1

+1000 spanone Jan 2012 #2

+1,000,000! It is so clear to me what's going on here at DU. Obama-Biden 2012!! n/t Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2012 #21

+1 tallahasseedem Jan 2012 #33

+ 1 AtomicKitten Jan 2012 #44

Thank you Sid! Tarheel_Dem Jan 2012 #73

Yep.... WCGreen Jan 2012 #84

now sid, don't piss in anyone's bowl of trollios... dionysus Jan 2012 #99

Sid, please. Like he needs ANY damn encouragement Number23 Jan 2012 #106

Hyperbole is the new facts SunsetDreams Jan 2012 #134

Yeah, the ACLU is all about hyperbole. Zalatix Jan 2012 #143

The article co authored by Green Party Bob Fitrakis is hyperbole SunsetDreams Jan 2012 #146

Yea, this is an attempt to get more readers and hits. However... Zalatix Jan 2012 #151

The Problem is really with the AUMF of 2001 SunsetDreams Jan 2012 #155

Yeah, that's the best way to fight back, make sure it doesn't get slipped into the NDAA again. Zalatix Jan 2012 #156

Yes and get them to Vote for S.2003 - Due Process Guarantee Act of 2011 SunsetDreams Jan 2012 #158

The hyperbolic headline doesn't help cthulu2016 Jan 2012 #3

I agree nt Mojorabbit Jan 2012 #28

... elleng Jan 2012 #4

Cut and Paste!, Cut and Paste! FSogol Jan 2012 #5

El toro poo poo again! mfcorey1 Jan 2012 #6

Please to wait until they come for you gratuitous Jan 2012 #7

not only that, but if you're against NDAA you're a GOP plant undermining liberalism MisterP Jan 2012 #48

+1000 FredStembottom Jan 2012 #183

Interesting ProSense Jan 2012 #8

It is a great relief that Obama did use a signing statement in regards to the NDAA think Jan 2012 #35

When have you ever posted anything critical of Obama? Don't lecture the OP about what you... Logical Jan 2012 #129

Hmmm? ProSense Jan 2012 #174

Why the useless one word subject lines? Your calling card I guess. Logical Jan 2012 #176

To ProSense Jan 2012 #178

I always look for your posts first in any OP that says anything except "Obama is Perfect"..... Logical Jan 2012 #179

Here ProSense Jan 2012 #180

Stalking means I give a shit. I don't. I really just do it for entertainment. Logical Jan 2012 #181

It's ProSense Jan 2012 #182

You just don't like being called out when you are wrong. It is within the rules! Logical Jan 2012 #202

Eff it, lets all stay home on election day. That'll show Obama and that veto-proof congress! FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #9

The Daily Hate also doesn't help cthulu2016 Jan 2012 #10

When they hear the letters ACLU kenny blankenship Jan 2012 #199

knr emilyg Jan 2012 #11

+1 Octafish Jan 2012 #64

It should matter to ALL. emilyg Jan 2012 #88

You got that right Capn Sunshine Jan 2012 #120

Believe me, we are all relying on pure trust that these new powers... FredStembottom Jan 2012 #184

emilyg! BlueIris Jan 2012 #200

Doing ok. How about you.? emilyg Jan 2012 #204

Can't complain, all things considered. nt BlueIris Jan 2012 #209

Run for your lives!!!!!!!!! Barack is really Damian in The Omen. DevonRex Jan 2012 #12

Do you have an opinion on the ACLU and Human Rights Watch statements? Better Believe It Jan 2012 #17

I'm stuck on "death knell." That's what hyperbole does. nt DevonRex Jan 2012 #20

Try to get unstuck and read the other two articles if you respect the ACLU and Human Rights Watch Better Believe It Jan 2012 #24

Really, no thank you. Hyperbole is a complete turnoff. nt DevonRex Jan 2012 #25

Then I'll hope you'll curtail posting in this thread due to your self-imposed ignorance DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2012 #100

Aren't you just the sweetest thing!! DevonRex Jan 2012 #111

Although northerners may not understand TBF Jan 2012 #166

Good. Nt DevonRex Jan 2012 #195

Best post yet! We can only hope that would happen with many posters. Puglover Jan 2012 #163

Present company included. nt Bobbie Jo Jan 2012 #171

S/he couldn't care what the ACLU and Human Rights Watch say. They are Obama haters. Zalatix Jan 2012 #152

Oh, shit!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2012 #23

Well no one said that, but the Director of Human Rights Watch did say this: sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #114

You Do Realize This Is Opinion Not Fact? ProfessorGAC Jan 2012 #161

Of course we are allowed to disagree, but I saw no one even address what he said in sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #185

Perhaps that's reflective of people's opinion of the original poster mythology Jan 2012 #207

I keep waiting to see an original post sharp_stick Jan 2012 #13

And what is your opinion on the ACLU and Human Rights Watch statements? Better Believe It Jan 2012 #19

I provided opinions on them sharp_stick Jan 2012 #26

Really? Will you provide links to your opinions? Better Believe It Jan 2012 #58

can you provide links besides Common Dreams and IhateObama.com? Capn Sunshine Jan 2012 #121

You're now being put on ignore for your constant personal attacks. Better Believe It Jan 2012 #135

excellent Capn Sunshine Jan 2012 #136

ROFL Coming from you, that means a lot! No, really! JNelson6563 Jan 2012 #165

That just about sums up. Bobbie Jo Jan 2012 #169

So how is the ACLU still operating? treestar Jan 2012 #14

What is your opinion on the ACLU and Human Rights Watch statements? Better Believe It Jan 2012 #15

You're Listening? Really? ProfessorGAC Jan 2012 #34

Has "treestar" asked for your assistance in answering my question or do you normally answer .... Better Believe It Jan 2012 #54

Much as you are capable of answering Treestar's question... LanternWaste Jan 2012 #65

You Do Not Run This Site ProfessorGAC Jan 2012 #75

Would you mind telling that to post #100? DevonRex Jan 2012 #112

That's answering a question with a question, isn't it? treestar Jan 2012 #57

So the ACLU and Human Rights "statements may be exaggerated" or they may not be .... Better Believe It Jan 2012 #59

Since the Bill of Rights is gone treestar Jan 2012 #125

The ACLU was still functioning when Bush was shredding the Constitution. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #132

The Death Knell for the Bill of Rights, per the OP, was signed just treestar Jan 2012 #133

What is being said in all of the articles is that with this bill sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #137

You CAN'T be serious, right? If Bush signed this law we'd be in an absolute uproar. Zalatix Jan 2012 #153

GOP Candidates Flub Facts In Republican Debate mfcorey1 Jan 2012 #16

Your post is way off topic. That could be seen as a violation of DU posting rules. Better Believe It Jan 2012 #22

Actually, is is *exactly* on topic. Ikonoklast Jan 2012 #29

Like the Klan, I oppose what he bellows to death but believe he had the right to express it to the TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #116

Cry me a river! mfcorey1 Jan 2012 #36

Oh I'll do better than that. You're now on ignore! Better Believe It Jan 2012 #55

Loving it. mfcorey1 Jan 2012 #60

If you believe a reply to you breaks DU rules, MineralMan Jan 2012 #52

The Republicans agree with this bill. So is your post meant to point out the fact sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #66

There use to be a petition at WhiteHouse. gov but it's gone due to insufficient signatures: think Jan 2012 #18

Control-V for Victory! Codeine Jan 2012 #27

LOL. They need a Control-V Flag! n/t FSogol Jan 2012 #30

That's awesome!... SidDithers Jan 2012 #39

HERE'S AN IDEA!: FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #31

! AtomicKitten Jan 2012 #53

Here's a thought. Democrats control the Senate. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #67

Here's a thought: People have FREE-WILL whether you agree with them or not. FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #76

Well, basically what you are saying is that having a Democratic majority sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #81

Uhh, apparently you are forgetting the HUGE amount of accomplishments this President has achieved. FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #115

I'll be working for Progressive Democrats, very hard in order to remove from Congress sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #117

I've seen you do it PLENTY of times, besides, I'm not able to go through your posts. FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #119

No, you have not. Now either post an example of my 'shitting on Obama' or this post sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #124

Riiiight. Amazing what people tell themselves. Actually, who started this here conversation? FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #128

Thanks I knew you wouldn't find any such posts. Just wanted to clear that up. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #130

Uh, I said I wasn't able to go through your posts. Do you think I'd waste my time caring about THIS? FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #131

Well, I'm not sure what that link was supposed demonstrate. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #141

"Creepy" is YOU following ME around on a message board. FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #142

Wow, now you're getting really silly. Time for a break maybe? sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #144

I'm sorry for 2 reasons.... FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #147

Like I said, you need to take a break. You are begging for an alert now. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #149

You have the opportunity to stop telling people what to do and how to think. And remember: FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #150

You certainly have more patience trying to have a rational discussion Old and In the Way Jan 2012 #159

You jumped into this thread with a snide comment about the ACLU sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #160

Really, just stop. Also, I said I meant Obama supporters, as I've pointed to a few links proving me FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #175

No, you said I 'shit all over Obama' so I'm glad you are retracting that false statement. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #186

I did do it earlier, WAAY earlier. Read up-thread. FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #187

Principle. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #189

Physician, heal thyself. FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #194

LOL...I see you're the latest contestant Bobbie Jo Jan 2012 #173

Well, the issue has been resolved. There are no such posts, which has been sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #193

Whoooosh. Bobbie Jo Jan 2012 #201

And another example of a personal attack in response to a comment that was not. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #203

Sabrina was among the earlier Obama for President DUers Mimosa Jan 2012 #208

Most BS ridden statement ever. Tell that to Clinton, Carter, and the many other Dem Presidents. n/t vaberella Jan 2012 #91

Most content free comment ever. Well, almost. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #95

Actually it does when counting the quality of the Dems. vaberella Jan 2012 #188

This would have been a great post to have a real discussion of these issues had sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #190

I didn't think it was continuing since you claim adamantly that Dem majorities can do alot. vaberella Jan 2012 #196

Democrats DON'T control the Senate, they have a small majority Capn Sunshine Jan 2012 #123

Was that post meant for me? sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #126

It was a general statement of phiolosophy not directed at you Capn Sunshine Jan 2012 #139

No umbrage, just checking! sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #145

It takes 60 'yes' votes to invoke cloture on a bill - we do NOT have 60 dems in the Senate n/t Tx4obama Jan 2012 #191

The level of disdain for Civil Liberties/Rights here is stunning Mr.Liberty Jan 2012 #32

Agreed. Amazingly so. AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #45

Hahahaha!!! Major Hogwash Jan 2012 #61

Yes, I am stunned at the disregard on a Democratic forum sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #70

No, you're confusing your "disdains" here... Bobbie Jo Jan 2012 #170

What I see in the OP are links to very credible Liberal Organizations that at one time sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #198

At least Obama likes puppies . . . RZM Jan 2012 #37

that bad Obama!!--another BBI thread to the garbage WI_DEM Jan 2012 #38

Still waiting for that new record....you really suck at meeting dates snooper2 Jan 2012 #40

Bob Fitrakis, Green Party candidate? What a surprise muriel_volestrangler Jan 2012 #41

Shocked. Shocked, I am.... SidDithers Jan 2012 #43

I wonder if it would shock you, Sid to know that Greens were part of the coallition with Bluenorthwest Jan 2012 #162

"President Barack Obama has signed a death knell for the Bill of Rights" is not "reaching out" muriel_volestrangler Jan 2012 #168

Do you know anything about Bob Fitrakis? sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #89

He's a journalist and PolSci lecturer who stood for the Green Party for Governor of Ohio in 2006 muriel_volestrangler Jan 2012 #109

Reallly? How does legislation override the constitution? onenote Jan 2012 #42

Yawn. BumRushDaShow Jan 2012 #46

The oath of office is merely symbolic ... GeorgeGist Jan 2012 #47

Another hit piece on the President Kingofalldems Jan 2012 #49

I don't think the ACLU is against Obama Cali_Democrat Jan 2012 #51

Wasn't referring to the ACLU Kingofalldems Jan 2012 #62

Emergency! Everybody to get from street! MineralMan Jan 2012 #50

To assist you in your endless search for anti-Obama MineralMan Jan 2012 #56

Anything to say about the actual topic of the OP? sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #72

The ACLU one has been posted multiple times. I've commented in previous threads. MineralMan Jan 2012 #77

Well you are in the thread so I assumed you do comment sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #83

Regardless of that link, do you have any link or links to pro-Constitution web sites? AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #110

K & R! Wind Dancer Jan 2012 #63

The same crowd was parading around DU with Andrew Sullivan on their shoulders yesterday. bvar22 Jan 2012 #177

Yep, you said it. Beacool Jan 2012 #210

Thank you for a most important post, Better Believe It. Really love the concentrated attacks, too. Octafish Jan 2012 #68

Thank you for your comments. They are most appreciated. Better Believe It Jan 2012 #167

This Country has some very Weak People in it fascisthunter Jan 2012 #69

Apocalyptic hyperbole is the haven for those that don't have the facts to win a reasoned argument. grantcart Jan 2012 #71

But you still haven't addressed the point we are at now, the point Bush brought this sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #74

I don't have time for anything that starts out as grantcart Jan 2012 #80

Well, tell all that to those who have been sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #82

Unfortunately I can't. Free discussion is no longer possible because the Bill of Rights is dead. grantcart Jan 2012 #85

In a way you are more correct than you realize. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #87

"ABA would have had something to say about it"? Did the ABA speak up much about Bush torture? AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #86

Oh, that's OK. Somebody, sometime, if conditions to do are favorable, will fix it in the future. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2012 #78

Obama also plays Puppy Golf!!!! JoePhilly Jan 2012 #79

Did someone accuse the President of cruelty to puppies? sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #90

Obama was accused of cruelty to flies by PETA. n/t vaberella Jan 2012 #92

Flies are not puppies. The question was about cruelty to puppies. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #96

It reflects how Obama is killing not only the Bill of Rights .. but also the rights of cute puppies. JoePhilly Jan 2012 #93

Well, I would agree on the puppies, that certainly is hyperbolic and sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #97

So do you agree that Obama is killing the Bill of rights? JoePhilly Jan 2012 #101

Are you saying this legislation protects the Bill of Rights? sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #103

Yes .... did read ... and did not conclude "death" of JoePhilly Jan 2012 #105

Chipping away at something eventually leads to its death. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #107

I predict that this question will go unanswered. a simple pattern Jan 2012 #138

k & r girl gone mad Jan 2012 #94

poor fella. 4 mores years of increasingly desperately spamming smear pieces. dionysus Jan 2012 #98

The ACLU and Human Rights Watch is now Spam? sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #104

no, these desperate threads are spam. dionysus Jan 2012 #113

Well, I can't think of anything more important to this country than the preservation of rights. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #118

Well he and his fans (who are posting more in this thread than the OP is) gotta have something to do Number23 Jan 2012 #108

This message was self-deleted by its author Sheepshank Jan 2012 #102

He signed a knell? n/t gulliver Jan 2012 #122

Obama-Biden 2012!!! CakeGrrl Jan 2012 #127

I love this president. cliffordu Jan 2012 #140

I'll wait with you to see if your question ever gets answered ... Tx4obama Jan 2012 #192

I'm thinking I'm on the ignore list with this poster - cliffordu Jan 2012 #206

Kudos to the OP for an important post, and also to Sabrina woo me with science Jan 2012 #148

Well said just1voice Jan 2012 #154

Thank you. emilyg Jan 2012 #205

Isn't this sort of thing that gets decided by the Supreme Court? Kablooie Jan 2012 #157

5-4 Octafish Jan 2012 #164

K&R (nt) T S Justly Jan 2012 #172

How the fuck do you "sign" a knell? nt NYC Liberal Jan 2012 #197

First they came for the 2nd Amendment and you did not speak.... aikoaiko May 2012 #211