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markodochartaigh

(5,545 posts)
36. You make very good points. But.
Sun Oct 6, 2024, 02:07 PM
Oct 2024

I think that the sine qua non of a well-functioning democracy is an educated and engaged electorate. Without this I think that any other measures are only half measures that treat symptoms, but not the disease. I think that fashioned and apathy are the Achilles' heels of democracy. In the US it is fashionable to be ignorant of politics and disengaged from the political process. It isn't cynicism. One can be completely convinced that the majority of politicians are motivated by their own interests and the interests of their donors and still believe that that is exactly the reason that we must work even harder to hold the politicians to account in working for the public interest.
In the US a negative and unproductive cynicism holds sway. This cynicism has a lazy form which dictates that because either "both sides are the same" or "nothing that one person does has any effect" the individual is justified in disengaging from the political process. This lazy form is the only form available to the vast majority of the population. And there is an active form of this cynicism practiced by our oiligarchs in which politicians and judges are bought like prize hogs at the state fair.
I think that only the education and subsequent engagement of the electorate will be effective in remedying what is wrong with our democracy. I think that everything else is taking pain medicine for cancer. Important steps, but without treating the disease itself, ineffective.

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Thank you EverHopeful Oct 2024 #1
You know, I heard on MSNBC that the Trump campaign admitted they had spent millions on PatrickforB Oct 2024 #6
NYT has an overwhelmingly high percentage of readership by Democrats. Making a profit, requires readership. Silent Type Oct 2024 #2
Yup, my friend thinks the NYT is gospel....... a kennedy Oct 2024 #4
Calling it a horse race would indicate that they would promote the losing side to keep things even cutroot Oct 2024 #3
Yup FHRRK Oct 2024 #33
I find the NYT to be different from what you are saying here. I find nothing outrageous about their reporting or about CTyankee Oct 2024 #5
Ochs-Sulzberge family holds 90% of the voting shares of the NYT Voltaire2 Oct 2024 #7
Money, money and more money. That's the point even with supermajority owned companies. paleotn Oct 2024 #24
So good! Thank you! sarchasm Oct 2024 #8
Sure, if you wish. n/t PatrickforB Oct 2024 #57
Spot on!! Posting on Facebook. h2ebits Oct 2024 #9
See "NY Times finally details Trump's cognitive decline in scathing article" Towlie Oct 2024 #10
And how long did it take the NYT to come around to this point? erronis Oct 2024 #13
No, not at all. Because it was a long time coming, and I'm considering the coverage for the entire year, PatrickforB Oct 2024 #58
Yes, and it only took them nine years. hatrack Oct 2024 #61
You wrapped up the major points very succinctly. Thanks! erronis Oct 2024 #11
SAY IT!!! Montauk6 Oct 2024 #12
Yeah that works temporarily Farmer-Rick Oct 2024 #14
Great idea! Wild blueberry Oct 2024 #15
Great post about policy Felicita Oct 2024 #16
One of the best posts I've read recently. BattleRow Oct 2024 #23
It is also why billionaires buy news organizations. They profit in many other ways than just ratings or clicks/ KPN Oct 2024 #17
More circus than bread nowadays... BattleRow Oct 2024 #20
They sure are toxic waste. Dave Bowman Oct 2024 #18
Great comments DENVERPOPS Oct 2024 #19
After Project 2025.. BattleRow Oct 2024 #21
Good one DENVERPOPS Oct 2024 #40
Oh,YES! And for a slightly off topic..another BattleRow Oct 2024 #41
Absolutely agree Blue Full Moon Oct 2024 #22
Thank you for a great post. You are an excellent teacher. Timeflyer Oct 2024 #25
Most excellent post! Thank you megapuzzler Oct 2024 #26
Kudos to you! I used to read the NYT front to back..not the sports, and loved it. Gave up on them a few yrs back PortTack Oct 2024 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author Dan Oct 2024 #28
Exactly. HappyLarge Oct 2024 #29
Absolutely! And welcome to our little party. paleotn Oct 2024 #31
Fairness Doctrine was just icing. Dodge v. Ford Motor Co. paleotn Oct 2024 #30
"AND Reagan killing the Fairness Doctrine back in '87" It is amazing how much damage Reagan did to the USA Escurumbele Oct 2024 #32
Yes ... add to that the economic realities of the newspaper business FakeNoose Oct 2024 #34
I recall when Seymour Hersh worked for them. BattleRow Oct 2024 #42
He doesn't get much play because he went off the deep end. Embracing conspiracy theories, Putin, tritsofme Oct 2024 #47
We all have our opinions as to when BattleRow Oct 2024 #48
So you think the pro-Putin nonsense, making excuses for Trump is...good journalism? tritsofme Oct 2024 #49
I am unaware of that which you speak BattleRow Oct 2024 #50
There has been lots written about his fall. tritsofme Oct 2024 #51
I certainly will review this. Thank you. BattleRow Oct 2024 #53
I like Maines approach. infullview Oct 2024 #35
You make very good points. But. markodochartaigh Oct 2024 #36
I would say it isn't just the cynicism misanthrope Oct 2024 #45
Like Juvenal said two thousand years ago, markodochartaigh Oct 2024 #46
Sidenote: Fairness doctrine only applied to over-the-air broadcasts. thesquanderer Oct 2024 #37
Granted but talk radio was the most pervasive method misanthrope Oct 2024 #44
Social media in particular is designed to give us more of littlemissmartypants Oct 2024 #38
I cancelled my NYT subscription back in 2015 due to Clinton email coverage LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2024 #39
Saddest of all is that none of this is hidden knowledge misanthrope Oct 2024 #43
I enjoy the Times bif Oct 2024 #52
Dodge v Ford, Just Jerome Oct 2024 #54
100%! n/t PatrickforB Oct 2024 #59
Take the money out of elections and the MSM's motivation and actions become irrelevant. pecosbob Oct 2024 #55
Great post. raccoon Oct 2024 #56
Agree ScubaSteve Oct 2024 #60
I am happy to rec. pandr32 Oct 2024 #62
K&R, great post and I love your idea...one little rule change, and some tweaks to the SC and their c-rational Oct 2024 #63
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