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In reply to the discussion: Any time you hear the word "privatization", you should be scared [View all]ProSense
(116,464 posts)12. For real-life examples of privatization hell, look to NJ
Prisons, Privatization, Patronage
By PAUL KRUGMAN
Over the past few days, The New York Times has published several terrifying reports about New Jerseys system of halfway houses privately run adjuncts to the regular system of prisons. The series is a model of investigative reporting, which everyone should read. But it should also be seen in context. The horrors described are part of a broader pattern in which essential functions of government are being both privatized and degraded.
First of all, about those halfway houses: In 2010, Chris Christie, the states governor who has close personal ties to Community Education Centers, the largest operator of these facilities, and who once worked as a lobbyist for the firm described the companys operations as representing the very best of the human spirit. But The Timess reports instead portray something closer to hell on earth an understaffed, poorly run system, with a demoralized work force, from which the most dangerous individuals often escape to wreak havoc, while relatively mild offenders face terror and abuse at the hands of other inmates.
Its a terrible story. But, as I said, you really need to see it in the broader context of a nationwide drive on the part of Americas right to privatize government functions, very much including the operation of prisons. Whats behind this drive?
You might be tempted to say that it reflects conservative belief in the magic of the marketplace, in the superiority of free-market competition over government planning. And thats certainly the way right-wing politicians like to frame the issue.
But if you think about it even for a minute, you realize that the one thing the companies that make up the prison-industrial complex companies like Community Education or the private-prison giant Corrections Corporation of America are definitely not doing is competing in a free market. They are, instead, living off government contracts. There isnt any market here, and there is, therefore, no reason to expect any magical gains in efficiency.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/22/opinion/krugman-prisons-privatization-patronage.html
By PAUL KRUGMAN
Over the past few days, The New York Times has published several terrifying reports about New Jerseys system of halfway houses privately run adjuncts to the regular system of prisons. The series is a model of investigative reporting, which everyone should read. But it should also be seen in context. The horrors described are part of a broader pattern in which essential functions of government are being both privatized and degraded.
First of all, about those halfway houses: In 2010, Chris Christie, the states governor who has close personal ties to Community Education Centers, the largest operator of these facilities, and who once worked as a lobbyist for the firm described the companys operations as representing the very best of the human spirit. But The Timess reports instead portray something closer to hell on earth an understaffed, poorly run system, with a demoralized work force, from which the most dangerous individuals often escape to wreak havoc, while relatively mild offenders face terror and abuse at the hands of other inmates.
Its a terrible story. But, as I said, you really need to see it in the broader context of a nationwide drive on the part of Americas right to privatize government functions, very much including the operation of prisons. Whats behind this drive?
You might be tempted to say that it reflects conservative belief in the magic of the marketplace, in the superiority of free-market competition over government planning. And thats certainly the way right-wing politicians like to frame the issue.
But if you think about it even for a minute, you realize that the one thing the companies that make up the prison-industrial complex companies like Community Education or the private-prison giant Corrections Corporation of America are definitely not doing is competing in a free market. They are, instead, living off government contracts. There isnt any market here, and there is, therefore, no reason to expect any magical gains in efficiency.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/22/opinion/krugman-prisons-privatization-patronage.html
Flashback...
February 2011:
Democrats fight Gov. Christie's plan to privatize N.J. government functions
By Matt Friedman/Statehouse Bureau
TRENTON Democrats are pushing back against Gov. Chris Christies plan to privatize some state government functions by calling for a change in the state constitution to put a short leash on agencies that want to hire private firms.
<...>
A Christie administration task force last year recommended privatizing functions like health care for prison inmates, toll collections, state parks, highway rest stops and career centers for the unemployed. The task force estimated the state government could save $210 million through the changes.
The New Jersey Turnpike Authority recently put out a request for proposals that calls for toll collectors to make $12 per hour less than half what experienced employees now make.
Democrats said they were trying to avoid abuse and waste that occurred in the 1990s with the privatization of vehicle inspections and the installation of the E-ZPass toll system.
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http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2011/02/democrats_fight_gov_christie_p.html
By Matt Friedman/Statehouse Bureau
TRENTON Democrats are pushing back against Gov. Chris Christies plan to privatize some state government functions by calling for a change in the state constitution to put a short leash on agencies that want to hire private firms.
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A Christie administration task force last year recommended privatizing functions like health care for prison inmates, toll collections, state parks, highway rest stops and career centers for the unemployed. The task force estimated the state government could save $210 million through the changes.
The New Jersey Turnpike Authority recently put out a request for proposals that calls for toll collectors to make $12 per hour less than half what experienced employees now make.
Democrats said they were trying to avoid abuse and waste that occurred in the 1990s with the privatization of vehicle inspections and the installation of the E-ZPass toll system.
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http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2011/02/democrats_fight_gov_christie_p.html
July 2012 editorial:
Privatization no panacea for government
A task force assembled by Gov. Christie recently reported that New Jerseys government could save a bundle simply by turning over many of its core functions from motor-vehicle services to school facilities to the private sector. But thanks partly to another governor named Christie, New Jerseyans need not wait in suspense for the results of this government innovation. Thats because the state already has some disastrous and relatively recent experience with privatization much of it in the areas singled out by the task force.
Christie deserves credit for cutting the state budget and looking for more ways to do so. And so far this is only a report (though one ordered up and roundly praised by the governor himself). But given the states history, some of the task forces ideas werent even worth examining, let alone pursuing any further.
In 1998, Gov. Christie Whitmans outsourcing of motor-vehicle inspections to a private company led to epic lines and widespread outrage. It later emerged that the sweetheart contract had gone to a company associated with avid campaign giving. Whitmans privatization of motor-vehicle agency offices also contributed to interminable waits, as well as corruption and security breaches. That helped end the Division of Motor Vehicles long death spiral and bring about an overhaul that replaced it with todays Motor Vehicle Commission.
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http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/inq_ed_board/Privatization_no_panacea_for_government.html
A task force assembled by Gov. Christie recently reported that New Jerseys government could save a bundle simply by turning over many of its core functions from motor-vehicle services to school facilities to the private sector. But thanks partly to another governor named Christie, New Jerseyans need not wait in suspense for the results of this government innovation. Thats because the state already has some disastrous and relatively recent experience with privatization much of it in the areas singled out by the task force.
Christie deserves credit for cutting the state budget and looking for more ways to do so. And so far this is only a report (though one ordered up and roundly praised by the governor himself). But given the states history, some of the task forces ideas werent even worth examining, let alone pursuing any further.
In 1998, Gov. Christie Whitmans outsourcing of motor-vehicle inspections to a private company led to epic lines and widespread outrage. It later emerged that the sweetheart contract had gone to a company associated with avid campaign giving. Whitmans privatization of motor-vehicle agency offices also contributed to interminable waits, as well as corruption and security breaches. That helped end the Division of Motor Vehicles long death spiral and bring about an overhaul that replaced it with todays Motor Vehicle Commission.
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http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/inq_ed_board/Privatization_no_panacea_for_government.html
Privatizing the DMV was worse than a disaster. Using Krugman's phrase, it was "closer to hell on earth."
The definition of insanity:
Christie Seeks to Weaken Oversight of Halfway Houses
By SAM DOLNICK
Gov. Chris Christies administration came under heavy criticism from legislators last month at hearings on New Jerseys privately run halfway houses, which handle thousands of inmates each year. On Wednesday, Mr. Christie fired back, saying he would significantly weaken a measure approved by the legislators to increase their oversight of the system.
It was the second time Mr. Christie moved to weaken new regulations for halfway houses.
The Democratic-controlled Legislature approved a bill in June that required the state auditor to conduct reviews of major corrections contracts with private operators, including those with a halfway house company that dominates the system and has close ties to Mr. Christie.
But the governor, a Republican, said Wednesday that he would sign the law only if all existing contracts, including those with halfway house operators, were exempted from the audits.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/09/nyregion/christie-seeks-to-weaken-new-oversight-of-halfway-houses.html
By SAM DOLNICK
Gov. Chris Christies administration came under heavy criticism from legislators last month at hearings on New Jerseys privately run halfway houses, which handle thousands of inmates each year. On Wednesday, Mr. Christie fired back, saying he would significantly weaken a measure approved by the legislators to increase their oversight of the system.
It was the second time Mr. Christie moved to weaken new regulations for halfway houses.
The Democratic-controlled Legislature approved a bill in June that required the state auditor to conduct reviews of major corrections contracts with private operators, including those with a halfway house company that dominates the system and has close ties to Mr. Christie.
But the governor, a Republican, said Wednesday that he would sign the law only if all existing contracts, including those with halfway house operators, were exempted from the audits.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/09/nyregion/christie-seeks-to-weaken-new-oversight-of-halfway-houses.html
New Jersey Fines Halfway Houses $45,000 Over Escapes
By SAM DOLNICK
The Christie administration said on Tuesday that it had issued $45,000 in fines against New Jersey halfway houses from which nine inmates escaped in recent months, the harshest penalties ever brought against the troubled network of private operators.
The halfway houses were fined for failing to quickly report escapees to state officials and for recording inmates who had escaped as present. In other cases, supervisors failed to keep track of inmates who had fled from work-release programs or slipped away before being sent back to prison, corrections officials said.
The inmates escaped from six different halfway houses, including two run by Community Education Centers, a company that dominates the states halfway house system and has drawn scrutiny because of its close ties to Gov. Chris Christie.
Hundreds of inmates escape from the states halfway houses each year, but authorities have previously done little to crack down on the problem. No penalties had ever been brought against halfway house operators until officials learned of The New York Timess 10-month investigation into escapes and other problems at the privately run centers, which can be as big as prisons but have little of their security.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/15/nyregion/new-jersey-fines-halfway-houses-over-inmate-escapes.html
By SAM DOLNICK
The Christie administration said on Tuesday that it had issued $45,000 in fines against New Jersey halfway houses from which nine inmates escaped in recent months, the harshest penalties ever brought against the troubled network of private operators.
The halfway houses were fined for failing to quickly report escapees to state officials and for recording inmates who had escaped as present. In other cases, supervisors failed to keep track of inmates who had fled from work-release programs or slipped away before being sent back to prison, corrections officials said.
The inmates escaped from six different halfway houses, including two run by Community Education Centers, a company that dominates the states halfway house system and has drawn scrutiny because of its close ties to Gov. Chris Christie.
Hundreds of inmates escape from the states halfway houses each year, but authorities have previously done little to crack down on the problem. No penalties had ever been brought against halfway house operators until officials learned of The New York Timess 10-month investigation into escapes and other problems at the privately run centers, which can be as big as prisons but have little of their security.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/15/nyregion/new-jersey-fines-halfway-houses-over-inmate-escapes.html
Christie open to 'smart' halfway house changes
BY MELISSA HAYES |AND JOHN REITMEYER
STAFF WRITERS
Governor Christie is now willing to sign bills to improve New Jerseys privatized system of halfway houses if Democratic leaders can get what he called smart legislation to his desk.
If they want to do something constructive and positive for the people of the state, Im all in, the Republican governor said Monday amid new reports of escapes from halfway houses in recent months, including some from a Newark facility that lost power during superstorm Sandy.
Im happy to sign smart legislation from either party that helps make our state a better place, he said. But if all they want to do is play games, then I know how to do that, too.
Christie continues to deal with questions about the management of halfway houses as his administration says it is working to improve accountability and oversight of a long-troubled system that has been turned over to private operators who house inmates outside of the traditional prison setting. The halfway houses supervise inmates through multiple public contracts including the federal Bureau of Prisons, the state Parole Board, county jail operators and the state Department of Corrections. Although they are regulated by state law in New Jersey, the facilities themselves are not supervised directly by any one part of any state government.
The Record reported Monday how state government leaders have failed to make significant changes to the troubled system despite a series of warning signs in recent years, including the 2010 death of a Garfield woman, allegedly at the hands of a man staying at a halfway house who was able to escape custody.
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http://www.northjersey.com/news/Christie_open_to_smart_halfway_house_changes.html
BY MELISSA HAYES |AND JOHN REITMEYER
STAFF WRITERS
Governor Christie is now willing to sign bills to improve New Jerseys privatized system of halfway houses if Democratic leaders can get what he called smart legislation to his desk.
If they want to do something constructive and positive for the people of the state, Im all in, the Republican governor said Monday amid new reports of escapes from halfway houses in recent months, including some from a Newark facility that lost power during superstorm Sandy.
Im happy to sign smart legislation from either party that helps make our state a better place, he said. But if all they want to do is play games, then I know how to do that, too.
Christie continues to deal with questions about the management of halfway houses as his administration says it is working to improve accountability and oversight of a long-troubled system that has been turned over to private operators who house inmates outside of the traditional prison setting. The halfway houses supervise inmates through multiple public contracts including the federal Bureau of Prisons, the state Parole Board, county jail operators and the state Department of Corrections. Although they are regulated by state law in New Jersey, the facilities themselves are not supervised directly by any one part of any state government.
The Record reported Monday how state government leaders have failed to make significant changes to the troubled system despite a series of warning signs in recent years, including the 2010 death of a Garfield woman, allegedly at the hands of a man staying at a halfway house who was able to escape custody.
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http://www.northjersey.com/news/Christie_open_to_smart_halfway_house_changes.html
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alp227
Dec 2012
#132
There have been many studies showing public services can be provided more effectively and
jody
Dec 2012
#2
there have been many more studies showing the opposite. and there is the evidence of our own
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#5
Please cite a study supporting your assertion re "military contracting systems being exhibit A." nt
jody
Dec 2012
#9
Thanks. This thread is about service contracts. There were perhaps a dozen Poor Contract
jody
Dec 2012
#151
The privatization of military services has been a failure in terms of cost and quality.
Overseas
Dec 2012
#152
Are you familiar with performance based service contracts used by the federal government? The name
jody
Dec 2012
#15
Education is neither a product nor a service, but is properly termed a social imperative.
Occulus
Dec 2012
#57
Sorry but in terms of contracts the accepted terms are either product or service. nt
jody
Dec 2012
#71
Yes but can you cite studies that prove the cat doesn't like to be belled? And if you can, then
Squinch
Dec 2012
#127
Carter was a neo-liberal. This was widely known. His failed policies led to the election of Reagan.
AnotherMcIntosh
Dec 2012
#11
I've read several state's laws for charter schools. IMO it's up to the state to declare what a
jody
Dec 2012
#17
Then you oppose the Presidents policies to contract out services under Circular A-76.
jody
Dec 2012
#22
Are you unable to say you oppose Obama's policies under A-76? A simple yes or no is easy. nt
jody
Dec 2012
#26
Defense contractors have no-bid, cost-plus contracts to supply meals, security, other
duhneece
Dec 2012
#32
Agree but contracts for services at permanent bases do not have those problems. nt
jody
Dec 2012
#62
You and several million other people can claim they wrote grants. You do know that grants have
jody
Dec 2012
#97
I never said A-76 is a panacea. I pointed out it's a president's policy for "privatization" that the
jody
Dec 2012
#101
I appears as if you are suggesting that anyone who opposes A-76, opposes Obama
Major Nikon
Dec 2012
#115
I believe Obama wants to revise A-76 has have previous presidents. He's also being pressured by the
jody
Dec 2012
#119
From my experience the problem is not the policies in A-76 nor the FAR & DAR. It's the people who
jody
Dec 2012
#129
While it may be true the OMB circulars are technically presidents' policies...
Major Nikon
Dec 2012
#55
Sorry but you are wrong. There are thousands of service contracts that function very effectively and
jody
Dec 2012
#67
Then you oppose presidents' policies under A-76? See other posts in this thread for the circular. nt
jody
Dec 2012
#28
Fact is, after decades of privatization favored more by Republicans than Democrats,
JDPriestly
Dec 2012
#34
You need to study the issue more thoroughly before you reject contracting out. The issue is much to
jody
Dec 2012
#64
I've also read lots of history. Does the Democratic Party Platform oppose "privatizers" if they as a
jody
Dec 2012
#87
Not if we have the very corporations that profit from these contracts are running our
JDPriestly
Dec 2012
#109
You're not going to get an answer if the earlier part of this discussion is any indicator.
GoneOffShore
Dec 2012
#59
Go to any military base and the odds are its morale, recreation, and welfare units are operated by
jody
Dec 2012
#66
Federal contracts for services are supposed to meet acquisition regulations that focus on
jody
Dec 2012
#92
OK but neither your experience nor mine has anything to do with the issue under discussion. Why did
jody
Dec 2012
#94
How does a Navy father and F-14 pilot give you even the most rudimentary knowledge of the FAR & DAR?
jody
Dec 2012
#106
You really have gotten in over your head haven't you because you don't know about FAR & DAR. nt
jody
Dec 2012
#110
No, there aren't. What there is, is an often repeated lie that pubic services are provided more
Egalitarian Thug
Dec 2012
#135
I did not say the presidential policy at the link proved anything. I said "One obvious set of
jody
Dec 2012
#139
The proposition that private is better than public is still a lie. And you are the one that is
Egalitarian Thug
Dec 2012
#143
Only someone who is uninformed on the issue would allege a "lie". Have a great day and goodbye. nt
jody
Dec 2012
#144
+100. I don't think the public always appreciates how much of the 'bad' is mandated from above.
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#3
some don't see it because they're not informed enough, having just heard the propaganda about
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#7
that's just a subset of lack of information. most people have no idea what anyone who represents
HiPointDem
Dec 2012
#61
A-76 is no more theory than any other statement of policy published by the executive branch. The
jody
Dec 2012
#89
Agree and policies like A-76 have evolved over decades under Democrats and Republican presidents.
jody
Dec 2012
#108
Re subject question, answer "no". The OP made a blanket condemnation of privatization and IMO that's
jody
Dec 2012
#114
I stated USPS Express Mail goes via FedEx. That's privatization pure and simple. I understand the
jody
Dec 2012
#118
+ 1,000. Profit adds a layer of cost where there should be none in health, education and utilities.
freshwest
Dec 2012
#43
Another point: at least theoretically, the gov. is more directly answerable to voters.
snot
Dec 2012
#53
Thanks to Arne Duncan, the Sec of Ed, there are those who are now harvesting public assets.
AnotherMcIntosh
Dec 2012
#8
You know when I was a little girl and my daddy was in the military we lived on base.
southernyankeebelle
Dec 2012
#45
Excellent info, southernyahkeebelle. That's just another way we shortchange our troops nowadays :(
We People
Dec 2012
#117
The true distruction started under Reagan. He started with the union breakdown then letting
southernyankeebelle
Dec 2012
#121
If there were a way to hook us up to masks and meter the air we took in and let out each day
gollygee
Dec 2012
#126
yes be scared, they did it with the private prisons. The contracts broke states of their tax money.
Sunlei
Dec 2012
#58
You've got it right despite some anti-government services cheerleaders here.
GoneOffShore
Dec 2012
#78
That's exactly what's happening in my school district. We're in fiscal caution now...
truth2power
Dec 2012
#105
We need serious media blitz on the privatization steamroller that the one percent are driving
woo me with science
Dec 2012
#134
And another kick for this post - Privatization being slightly more important than an
GoneOffShore
Dec 2012
#137
K & R - An excellent outline of privatization that should be memorized by everyone.
Raksha
Dec 2012
#149