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dixiegrrrrl

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55. More close to the truth than many people realize.
Mon Dec 10, 2012, 01:08 PM
Dec 2012

Many years ago, Frances Fox Piven pointed out why "the poor" were needed, esp. by the rich.

Johnson's "war on Poverty" provided millions of dollars over the years to a giant multi-layered web of
Federal and state agencies, people to staff them, people to study the poor, people to staff the city and local agencies to provide vouchers, services to "the poor" and a fair amount of money actually got to "the poor" in form of AFDC
(welfare) checks and food stamps..( back then food stamps actually had some value).

Oh,yeah, let's not forget the system of universities and colleges which developed programs for Social Work and other
"poverty" related programs, turning out graduates who found work in the multi layers of the system.

By creating an organized system of "fighting poverty", the country could feel good about "taking care of the poor" while at same time punitive policies kept the poor in their place, where they served as object lessons to those class layers above them. And all that money spent, by the states and the Feds, supported a lot of middle class families whose income depended on the bureaucracy of the Poverty program.

The more postiive side of the above was that there WAS a social safety net for people who needed it.

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A Modest Proposal.... Junkdrawer Dec 2012 #1
But then, whom would the elite have to look down on? nt kelliekat44 Dec 2012 #35
More close to the truth than many people realize. dixiegrrrrl Dec 2012 #55
Did you just get a new crate of hand grenades? trof Dec 2012 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Dec 2012 #3
Then why are you here? randome Dec 2012 #10
That's the $64,000 question, isn't it...nt SidDithers Dec 2012 #11
Because by its ToS and founding positions, it's explicitly supposed to be. Chan790 Dec 2012 #43
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I'm here to debate and share and learn. randome Dec 2012 #17
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Dec 2012 #23
I'll make one last...meh...to get you to step away from the ledge. randome Dec 2012 #26
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Jury results. hrmjustin Dec 2012 #41
jesus. i can see about 5 posts on this thread that deserve alerts way more than that. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #47
+100 HiPointDem Dec 2012 #46
You got that right. n/t 99Forever Dec 2012 #52
WWTDKS? slackmaster Dec 2012 #4
+1 krhines Dec 2012 #59
Isn't that what they're trying to do? Scuba Dec 2012 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Dec 2012 #8
It's what they have already done and continue to do. woo me with science Dec 2012 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author woo me with science Dec 2012 #40
It wouldn't becase rich people hae no skills and are lazy as fuck. craigmatic Dec 2012 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Dec 2012 #9
Rich people didn't build shit. Let's put kidding aside slaves built America. craigmatic Dec 2012 #15
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the world will be a better place for whom? srican69 Dec 2012 #7
stupid poll deserves stupid vote banned from Kos Dec 2012 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Dec 2012 #16
you are either srican69 Dec 2012 #18
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You don't understand that politics is the art of the possible banned from Kos Dec 2012 #24
The horseshit "art of the possible" meme.. 99Forever Dec 2012 #53
pleeeese srican69 Dec 2012 #27
Some context may be needed. randome Dec 2012 #29
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I can understand the upset this poll can cause a person Lady Freedom Returns Dec 2012 #33
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I really wonder why you continue to post annabanana Dec 2012 #54
Welcome to DU. Please excuse the rash one. randome Dec 2012 #22
No, don't excuse the rash one. She's right all around. n/t Chan790 Dec 2012 #48
I can vouch for her being neither. Chan790 Dec 2012 #45
1%: Flood the country with guns and they'll kill each other! moondust Dec 2012 #13
and drugs, which my neighborhood is currently being flooded with. the uptick is very obvious, & it HiPointDem Dec 2012 #50
Ouch. Lady Freedom Returns Dec 2012 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Dec 2012 #25
Actually Ayn Rand herself campaigned against Reagan banned from Kos Dec 2012 #31
Wow. MessiahRp Dec 2012 #42
Wow. Chan790 Dec 2012 #49
I know you mean it as sarcasm. But it hurts me for a reason. Lady Freedom Returns Dec 2012 #32
Don't forget the elderly and Baby Boomers who weren't greedheads. PufPuf23 Dec 2012 #34
That's *exactly* what austerity does. woo me with science Dec 2012 #36
You need one more choice: "No, we need to keep them alive so in coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #38
You know who had the right idea? Art Laffer! HughBeaumont Dec 2012 #44
Uh, what do you mean, "we", devilgrrl? JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2012 #51
That's what wars are for. kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #56
I see the sarcasm standingtall Dec 2012 #57
Who would do all the work? Rex Dec 2012 #58
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