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160. You jumped into this thread with a snide comment about the ACLU

Sat Jan 21, 2012, 04:48 AM

Jan 2012

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not living in the real world. That had to be the first time I have ever seen a Progressive Democrat speak about the ACLU with such disdain. Unless it is against the rules to reply to that false statement, I believe I was perfectly within the rules to point out the fallacy of such hyperbole. You followed with a string of posts filled with false accusations and attacks then whined because someone has the nerve to correct those false statements and/or ask you to back them up. It seems you conflate disagreement on policies with 'shitting' on someone.

I see the problem now. A disagreement with a politician is 'shitting on them'. Sorry, when a politician is making decisions that affect me and my family and the American people in general, and especially this country, s/he is going to hear from the people to whom they are responsible. That is how a democracy functions.

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"President Barack Obama has signed a death knell for the Bill of Rights." [View all] Better Believe It Jan 2012 OP

Keep trying...nt SidDithers Jan 2012 #1

+1000 spanone Jan 2012 #2

+1,000,000! It is so clear to me what's going on here at DU. Obama-Biden 2012!! n/t Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2012 #21

+1 tallahasseedem Jan 2012 #33

+ 1 AtomicKitten Jan 2012 #44

Thank you Sid! Tarheel_Dem Jan 2012 #73

Yep.... WCGreen Jan 2012 #84

now sid, don't piss in anyone's bowl of trollios... dionysus Jan 2012 #99

Sid, please. Like he needs ANY damn encouragement Number23 Jan 2012 #106

Hyperbole is the new facts SunsetDreams Jan 2012 #134

Yeah, the ACLU is all about hyperbole. Zalatix Jan 2012 #143

The article co authored by Green Party Bob Fitrakis is hyperbole SunsetDreams Jan 2012 #146

Yea, this is an attempt to get more readers and hits. However... Zalatix Jan 2012 #151

The Problem is really with the AUMF of 2001 SunsetDreams Jan 2012 #155

Yeah, that's the best way to fight back, make sure it doesn't get slipped into the NDAA again. Zalatix Jan 2012 #156

Yes and get them to Vote for S.2003 - Due Process Guarantee Act of 2011 SunsetDreams Jan 2012 #158

The hyperbolic headline doesn't help cthulu2016 Jan 2012 #3

I agree nt Mojorabbit Jan 2012 #28

... elleng Jan 2012 #4

Cut and Paste!, Cut and Paste! FSogol Jan 2012 #5

El toro poo poo again! mfcorey1 Jan 2012 #6

Please to wait until they come for you gratuitous Jan 2012 #7

not only that, but if you're against NDAA you're a GOP plant undermining liberalism MisterP Jan 2012 #48

+1000 FredStembottom Jan 2012 #183

Interesting ProSense Jan 2012 #8

It is a great relief that Obama did use a signing statement in regards to the NDAA think Jan 2012 #35

When have you ever posted anything critical of Obama? Don't lecture the OP about what you... Logical Jan 2012 #129

Hmmm? ProSense Jan 2012 #174

Why the useless one word subject lines? Your calling card I guess. Logical Jan 2012 #176

To ProSense Jan 2012 #178

I always look for your posts first in any OP that says anything except "Obama is Perfect"..... Logical Jan 2012 #179

Here ProSense Jan 2012 #180

Stalking means I give a shit. I don't. I really just do it for entertainment. Logical Jan 2012 #181

It's ProSense Jan 2012 #182

You just don't like being called out when you are wrong. It is within the rules! Logical Jan 2012 #202

Eff it, lets all stay home on election day. That'll show Obama and that veto-proof congress! FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #9

The Daily Hate also doesn't help cthulu2016 Jan 2012 #10

When they hear the letters ACLU kenny blankenship Jan 2012 #199

knr emilyg Jan 2012 #11

+1 Octafish Jan 2012 #64

It should matter to ALL. emilyg Jan 2012 #88

You got that right Capn Sunshine Jan 2012 #120

Believe me, we are all relying on pure trust that these new powers... FredStembottom Jan 2012 #184

emilyg! BlueIris Jan 2012 #200

Doing ok. How about you.? emilyg Jan 2012 #204

Can't complain, all things considered. nt BlueIris Jan 2012 #209

Run for your lives!!!!!!!!! Barack is really Damian in The Omen. DevonRex Jan 2012 #12

Do you have an opinion on the ACLU and Human Rights Watch statements? Better Believe It Jan 2012 #17

I'm stuck on "death knell." That's what hyperbole does. nt DevonRex Jan 2012 #20

Try to get unstuck and read the other two articles if you respect the ACLU and Human Rights Watch Better Believe It Jan 2012 #24

Really, no thank you. Hyperbole is a complete turnoff. nt DevonRex Jan 2012 #25

Then I'll hope you'll curtail posting in this thread due to your self-imposed ignorance DisgustipatedinCA Jan 2012 #100

Aren't you just the sweetest thing!! DevonRex Jan 2012 #111

Although northerners may not understand TBF Jan 2012 #166

Good. Nt DevonRex Jan 2012 #195

Best post yet! We can only hope that would happen with many posters. Puglover Jan 2012 #163

Present company included. nt Bobbie Jo Jan 2012 #171

S/he couldn't care what the ACLU and Human Rights Watch say. They are Obama haters. Zalatix Jan 2012 #152

Oh, shit!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jan 2012 #23

Well no one said that, but the Director of Human Rights Watch did say this: sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #114

You Do Realize This Is Opinion Not Fact? ProfessorGAC Jan 2012 #161

Of course we are allowed to disagree, but I saw no one even address what he said in sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #185

Perhaps that's reflective of people's opinion of the original poster mythology Jan 2012 #207

I keep waiting to see an original post sharp_stick Jan 2012 #13

And what is your opinion on the ACLU and Human Rights Watch statements? Better Believe It Jan 2012 #19

I provided opinions on them sharp_stick Jan 2012 #26

Really? Will you provide links to your opinions? Better Believe It Jan 2012 #58

can you provide links besides Common Dreams and IhateObama.com? Capn Sunshine Jan 2012 #121

You're now being put on ignore for your constant personal attacks. Better Believe It Jan 2012 #135

excellent Capn Sunshine Jan 2012 #136

ROFL Coming from you, that means a lot! No, really! JNelson6563 Jan 2012 #165

That just about sums up. Bobbie Jo Jan 2012 #169

So how is the ACLU still operating? treestar Jan 2012 #14

What is your opinion on the ACLU and Human Rights Watch statements? Better Believe It Jan 2012 #15

You're Listening? Really? ProfessorGAC Jan 2012 #34

Has "treestar" asked for your assistance in answering my question or do you normally answer .... Better Believe It Jan 2012 #54

Much as you are capable of answering Treestar's question... LanternWaste Jan 2012 #65

You Do Not Run This Site ProfessorGAC Jan 2012 #75

Would you mind telling that to post #100? DevonRex Jan 2012 #112

That's answering a question with a question, isn't it? treestar Jan 2012 #57

So the ACLU and Human Rights "statements may be exaggerated" or they may not be .... Better Believe It Jan 2012 #59

Since the Bill of Rights is gone treestar Jan 2012 #125

The ACLU was still functioning when Bush was shredding the Constitution. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #132

The Death Knell for the Bill of Rights, per the OP, was signed just treestar Jan 2012 #133

What is being said in all of the articles is that with this bill sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #137

You CAN'T be serious, right? If Bush signed this law we'd be in an absolute uproar. Zalatix Jan 2012 #153

GOP Candidates Flub Facts In Republican Debate mfcorey1 Jan 2012 #16

Your post is way off topic. That could be seen as a violation of DU posting rules. Better Believe It Jan 2012 #22

Actually, is is *exactly* on topic. Ikonoklast Jan 2012 #29

Like the Klan, I oppose what he bellows to death but believe he had the right to express it to the TheKentuckian Jan 2012 #116

Cry me a river! mfcorey1 Jan 2012 #36

Oh I'll do better than that. You're now on ignore! Better Believe It Jan 2012 #55

Loving it. mfcorey1 Jan 2012 #60

If you believe a reply to you breaks DU rules, MineralMan Jan 2012 #52

The Republicans agree with this bill. So is your post meant to point out the fact sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #66

There use to be a petition at WhiteHouse. gov but it's gone due to insufficient signatures: think Jan 2012 #18

Control-V for Victory! Codeine Jan 2012 #27

LOL. They need a Control-V Flag! n/t FSogol Jan 2012 #30

That's awesome!... SidDithers Jan 2012 #39

HERE'S AN IDEA!: FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #31

! AtomicKitten Jan 2012 #53

Here's a thought. Democrats control the Senate. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #67

Here's a thought: People have FREE-WILL whether you agree with them or not. FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #76

Well, basically what you are saying is that having a Democratic majority sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #81

Uhh, apparently you are forgetting the HUGE amount of accomplishments this President has achieved. FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #115

I'll be working for Progressive Democrats, very hard in order to remove from Congress sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #117

I've seen you do it PLENTY of times, besides, I'm not able to go through your posts. FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #119

No, you have not. Now either post an example of my 'shitting on Obama' or this post sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #124

Riiiight. Amazing what people tell themselves. Actually, who started this here conversation? FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #128

Thanks I knew you wouldn't find any such posts. Just wanted to clear that up. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #130

Uh, I said I wasn't able to go through your posts. Do you think I'd waste my time caring about THIS? FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #131

Well, I'm not sure what that link was supposed demonstrate. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #141

"Creepy" is YOU following ME around on a message board. FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #142

Wow, now you're getting really silly. Time for a break maybe? sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #144

I'm sorry for 2 reasons.... FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #147

Like I said, you need to take a break. You are begging for an alert now. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #149

You have the opportunity to stop telling people what to do and how to think. And remember: FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #150

You certainly have more patience trying to have a rational discussion Old and In the Way Jan 2012 #159

You jumped into this thread with a snide comment about the ACLU sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #160

Really, just stop. Also, I said I meant Obama supporters, as I've pointed to a few links proving me FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #175

No, you said I 'shit all over Obama' so I'm glad you are retracting that false statement. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #186

I did do it earlier, WAAY earlier. Read up-thread. FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #187

Principle. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #189

Physician, heal thyself. FarLeftFist Jan 2012 #194

LOL...I see you're the latest contestant Bobbie Jo Jan 2012 #173

Well, the issue has been resolved. There are no such posts, which has been sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #193

Whoooosh. Bobbie Jo Jan 2012 #201

And another example of a personal attack in response to a comment that was not. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #203

Sabrina was among the earlier Obama for President DUers Mimosa Jan 2012 #208

Most BS ridden statement ever. Tell that to Clinton, Carter, and the many other Dem Presidents. n/t vaberella Jan 2012 #91

Most content free comment ever. Well, almost. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #95

Actually it does when counting the quality of the Dems. vaberella Jan 2012 #188

This would have been a great post to have a real discussion of these issues had sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #190

I didn't think it was continuing since you claim adamantly that Dem majorities can do alot. vaberella Jan 2012 #196

Democrats DON'T control the Senate, they have a small majority Capn Sunshine Jan 2012 #123

Was that post meant for me? sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #126

It was a general statement of phiolosophy not directed at you Capn Sunshine Jan 2012 #139

No umbrage, just checking! sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #145

It takes 60 'yes' votes to invoke cloture on a bill - we do NOT have 60 dems in the Senate n/t Tx4obama Jan 2012 #191

The level of disdain for Civil Liberties/Rights here is stunning Mr.Liberty Jan 2012 #32

Agreed. Amazingly so. AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #45

Hahahaha!!! Major Hogwash Jan 2012 #61

Yes, I am stunned at the disregard on a Democratic forum sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #70

No, you're confusing your "disdains" here... Bobbie Jo Jan 2012 #170

What I see in the OP are links to very credible Liberal Organizations that at one time sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #198

At least Obama likes puppies . . . RZM Jan 2012 #37

that bad Obama!!--another BBI thread to the garbage WI_DEM Jan 2012 #38

Still waiting for that new record....you really suck at meeting dates snooper2 Jan 2012 #40

Bob Fitrakis, Green Party candidate? What a surprise muriel_volestrangler Jan 2012 #41

Shocked. Shocked, I am.... SidDithers Jan 2012 #43

I wonder if it would shock you, Sid to know that Greens were part of the coallition with Bluenorthwest Jan 2012 #162

"President Barack Obama has signed a death knell for the Bill of Rights" is not "reaching out" muriel_volestrangler Jan 2012 #168

Do you know anything about Bob Fitrakis? sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #89

He's a journalist and PolSci lecturer who stood for the Green Party for Governor of Ohio in 2006 muriel_volestrangler Jan 2012 #109

Reallly? How does legislation override the constitution? onenote Jan 2012 #42

Yawn. BumRushDaShow Jan 2012 #46

The oath of office is merely symbolic ... GeorgeGist Jan 2012 #47

Another hit piece on the President Kingofalldems Jan 2012 #49

I don't think the ACLU is against Obama Cali_Democrat Jan 2012 #51

Wasn't referring to the ACLU Kingofalldems Jan 2012 #62

Emergency! Everybody to get from street! MineralMan Jan 2012 #50

To assist you in your endless search for anti-Obama MineralMan Jan 2012 #56

Anything to say about the actual topic of the OP? sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #72

The ACLU one has been posted multiple times. I've commented in previous threads. MineralMan Jan 2012 #77

Well you are in the thread so I assumed you do comment sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #83

Regardless of that link, do you have any link or links to pro-Constitution web sites? AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #110

K & R! Wind Dancer Jan 2012 #63

The same crowd was parading around DU with Andrew Sullivan on their shoulders yesterday. bvar22 Jan 2012 #177

Yep, you said it. Beacool Jan 2012 #210

Thank you for a most important post, Better Believe It. Really love the concentrated attacks, too. Octafish Jan 2012 #68

Thank you for your comments. They are most appreciated. Better Believe It Jan 2012 #167

This Country has some very Weak People in it fascisthunter Jan 2012 #69

Apocalyptic hyperbole is the haven for those that don't have the facts to win a reasoned argument. grantcart Jan 2012 #71

But you still haven't addressed the point we are at now, the point Bush brought this sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #74

I don't have time for anything that starts out as grantcart Jan 2012 #80

Well, tell all that to those who have been sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #82

Unfortunately I can't. Free discussion is no longer possible because the Bill of Rights is dead. grantcart Jan 2012 #85

In a way you are more correct than you realize. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #87

"ABA would have had something to say about it"? Did the ABA speak up much about Bush torture? AnotherMcIntosh Jan 2012 #86

Oh, that's OK. Somebody, sometime, if conditions to do are favorable, will fix it in the future. Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2012 #78

Obama also plays Puppy Golf!!!! JoePhilly Jan 2012 #79

Did someone accuse the President of cruelty to puppies? sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #90

Obama was accused of cruelty to flies by PETA. n/t vaberella Jan 2012 #92

Flies are not puppies. The question was about cruelty to puppies. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #96

It reflects how Obama is killing not only the Bill of Rights .. but also the rights of cute puppies. JoePhilly Jan 2012 #93

Well, I would agree on the puppies, that certainly is hyperbolic and sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #97

So do you agree that Obama is killing the Bill of rights? JoePhilly Jan 2012 #101

Are you saying this legislation protects the Bill of Rights? sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #103

Yes .... did read ... and did not conclude "death" of JoePhilly Jan 2012 #105

Chipping away at something eventually leads to its death. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #107

I predict that this question will go unanswered. a simple pattern Jan 2012 #138

k & r girl gone mad Jan 2012 #94

poor fella. 4 mores years of increasingly desperately spamming smear pieces. dionysus Jan 2012 #98

The ACLU and Human Rights Watch is now Spam? sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #104

no, these desperate threads are spam. dionysus Jan 2012 #113

Well, I can't think of anything more important to this country than the preservation of rights. sabrina 1 Jan 2012 #118

Well he and his fans (who are posting more in this thread than the OP is) gotta have something to do Number23 Jan 2012 #108

This message was self-deleted by its author Sheepshank Jan 2012 #102

He signed a knell? n/t gulliver Jan 2012 #122

Obama-Biden 2012!!! CakeGrrl Jan 2012 #127

I love this president. cliffordu Jan 2012 #140

I'll wait with you to see if your question ever gets answered ... Tx4obama Jan 2012 #192

I'm thinking I'm on the ignore list with this poster - cliffordu Jan 2012 #206

Kudos to the OP for an important post, and also to Sabrina woo me with science Jan 2012 #148

Well said just1voice Jan 2012 #154

Thank you. emilyg Jan 2012 #205

Isn't this sort of thing that gets decided by the Supreme Court? Kablooie Jan 2012 #157

5-4 Octafish Jan 2012 #164

K&R (nt) T S Justly Jan 2012 #172

How the fuck do you "sign" a knell? nt NYC Liberal Jan 2012 #197

First they came for the 2nd Amendment and you did not speak.... aikoaiko May 2012 #211