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NickB79

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49. We currently consume too much protein as is
Tue Dec 11, 2012, 02:22 PM
Dec 2012

The FDA's recommended serving size for meat is a piece approximately the size of a deck of playing cards. You ever see someone get served a steak that size in recent memory? A Quarter Pounder with Cheese alone supplies over half an adult man's daily intake of protein (29 g out of the recommended 56 g).

So, we have some leeway on reducing protein intake and still maintaining health before things get bad.

Once we reach the point that protein production has fallen off that much due to climate change, we have several options:

-Dairy: it is far more efficient to feed cattle grasses and a limited amount of grains for dairy than it is to slaughter them for meat. Plus, using certain cultures such as the ones used for Greek yogurt can drastically improve protein concentrations of cultured dairy products.

-Eggs: same as above, it's more efficient to raise chickens for eggs as compared to raising the solely for slaughter. Free-range chickens on small-scale farming operations can eat pests and weeds to both gain calories and reduce farmer inputs.

-Insects: yes, it grosses a lot of people out, but they are a very efficient way to grow protein on otherwise inhospitable land. I've had roasted grasshoppers before, and as long as you avoid the spiny legs, they're not half-bad.

-Longer-term, we have to change our farming styles to address the fact that weather extremes are the new norm, and we will not be going back to the good old days. Permaculture using long-lived perennial crops such as chestnuts and hazelnuts that can tolerate climate shifts shows great promise, as this research nursery in my home state has shown: http://www.badgersett.com/info/woodyag1.html

While chestnuts are fairly low in protein, hazelnuts pack over 4 grams of protein per ounce, twice that supplied by an ounce of tofu.

-Spirulina: Yes, it's technically an algae, so that will probably gross people out just like the insect statement above. However, it will grow easily in cultivated ponds in warmer areas of the world, and requires fairly few inputs to put out high quantities of protein.

But as others above have pointed out, these are all just stopgap measures unless we can get our population growth under control.

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Growing crops takes water too. hobbit709 Dec 2012 #1
Hemp is drought resistant, also pest resistant, AND it builds stressed out soils. nt patrice Dec 2012 #5
That's kind of the point. Deep13 Dec 2012 #10
Not if you let them eat grass instead of grains. hobbit709 Dec 2012 #23
Not growing the crops to feed cattle is a massive net gain, though. yewberry Dec 2012 #17
Growing crops takes FAR less water than raising and processing beef. kestrel91316 Dec 2012 #39
Legalize HEMP. = Complete low bad-fat proteins, materiel, & small scale entrepreneurship. nt patrice Dec 2012 #2
Quinoa is good stuff, beans too... Deep13 Dec 2012 #3
Yeah, the bug protein thing. Sigh...I'd rather eat beautiful, innocent bunny rabbits first. Fire Walk With Me Dec 2012 #6
*shrug* me too. nt Deep13 Dec 2012 #9
don't you dare be hunting my neighborhood bunnies.... They are in a very protected zone.... hlthe2b Dec 2012 #20
At least not that you know of. undeterred Dec 2012 #8
true. nt Deep13 Dec 2012 #13
It's not polite to remind everyone that the FDA allow a certain % of bug in every can of food! Fire Walk With Me Dec 2012 #14
The best way to get protein from bugs KamaAina Dec 2012 #48
Are chickens less susceptible to drought? randome Dec 2012 #4
we tried quinoa once...we won't be trying it again. Mel Content Dec 2012 #7
try cooking it in broth instead of water Viva_La_Revolution Dec 2012 #22
then it's a taste i won't be acquiring. Mel Content Dec 2012 #30
If its drier one place it will be wetter some place else. 1-Old-Man Dec 2012 #11
Interesting, but I'm thinking locally and also factoring in shipping, which may suffer increasing Fire Walk With Me Dec 2012 #16
On average, it will be drier. NoOneMan Dec 2012 #29
But that just fixes a symptom Gregorian Dec 2012 #12
yup Deep13 Dec 2012 #15
Absolutely. randome Dec 2012 #18
I've done my bit Retrograde Dec 2012 #43
Many people are turning to small animal farming but that may not be sustainable either. We are doing jwirr Dec 2012 #19
Small-scale aquaponics is becoming a possibility: Fire Walk With Me Dec 2012 #21
Thank you. I have been thinking of looking into this idea. jwirr Dec 2012 #24
Eating bugs is the obvious alternative Nikia Dec 2012 #25
Why not people? NoOneMan Dec 2012 #34
It should be obvious unless you are a psychpathetic killer or an advocate of genocide Nikia Dec 2012 #38
Well, we might run out of insects NoOneMan Dec 2012 #40
To vegetarianists, everything that happens is a signal that we need alternatives to meat farming slackmaster Dec 2012 #26
Hah hah Hahhh!! Iggy Dec 2012 #31
I'm just going to go ahead and declare pork a vegetable. Deep13 Dec 2012 #42
Famine will be the chosen alternative NoOneMan Dec 2012 #27
Can we learn to need and consume less meat? Tree-Hugger Dec 2012 #28
Quinoa tastes like whatever you season it with. undeterred Dec 2012 #32
That's what the puppeteers of "Big Quinoa" want to to believe Tree-Hugger Dec 2012 #35
"puppeteers of "Big Quinoa"" undeterred Dec 2012 #36
HOW DARE YOU!! Iggy Dec 2012 #33
Plus... Tree-Hugger Dec 2012 #37
Oops... I Ate Four Boxes Iggy Dec 2012 #44
Topped with a Baconator, I hope. ;) nt Tree-Hugger Dec 2012 #46
Oh, yeah. This has brilliance written all over it. flvegan Dec 2012 #41
Those who harangue will also be hungry. Such is symmetry. Fire Walk With Me Dec 2012 #47
free range JCMach1 Dec 2012 #45
We currently consume too much protein as is NickB79 Dec 2012 #49
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