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ProSense

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Tue Dec 11, 2012, 03:31 PM Dec 2012

In case you missed it: an excerpt of President Obama's speech to the Business Roundtable [View all]

Opening Remarks by the President to the Business Roundtable

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So what we've said instead is let’s allow higher rates to go up for the top 2 percent -- that includes all of you, yes, but not in any way that’s going to affect your spending, your lifestyles, or the economy in any significant way; let’s make sure that 98 percent of Americans don't see a single dime in tax increases next year, 97 percent of small businesses don't see a single dime in tax increases next year -- and by doing that alone we raise almost a trillion dollars without any adverse effects on the economy.

Let’s combine that, then, with some additional spending cuts and some long-term entitlement reform that can get us to a number close to $4 trillion, which stabilizes our debt and our deficits relative to GDP for at least a decade, perhaps more.

That's our plan. That's what we've presented. The holdup right now is that Speaker Boehner took a position I think the day after the campaign that said we're willing to bring in revenue but we're not willing to increase rates.
And I just explained to you why we don't think that works. We're not trying to -- we're not insisting on rates just out of spite or out of any kind of partisan bickering, but rather because we need to raise a certain amount of revenue.

Now, we've seen some movement over the last several days among some Republicans. I think there’s a recognition that maybe they can accept some rate increases as long as it’s combined with serious entitlement reform and additional spending cuts. And if we can get the leadership on the Republican side to take that framework, to acknowledge that reality, then the numbers actually aren't that far apart. Another way of putting this is we can probably solve this in about a week; it’s not that tough. But we need that conceptual breakthrough that says we need to do a balanced plan; that's what’s best for the economy; that's what the American people voted for; that's how we're going to get it done.

Let me make one last point and then I'll start taking questions. There had been reports -- and these are not necessarily confirmed, and maybe some of you have more insight than I do on this -- that perhaps the Republicans go ahead and let the middle-class tax cuts get extended, the upper-income tax cuts go up, otherwise we don't get a deal, and next year we come back and the thinking is Republicans will have more leverage because there will be another vote on the debt ceiling and we will try to extract more concessions with a stronger hand on the debt ceiling.

I have to just tell you that is a bad strategy for America. It is a bad strategy for our businesses. And it is not a game that I will play.


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http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/12/05/opening-remarks-president-business-roundtable

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Unfortunately we all have memories, we've heard and read his strong speeches Lionessa Dec 2012 #1
Yeah, but ProSense Dec 2012 #3
We won in 2008 too, had even more seats in Legislature, so how does that help? Lionessa Dec 2012 #5
Well, ProSense Dec 2012 #6
Oh my, you and your list, that only addresses the "good" parts, Lionessa Dec 2012 #10
"only addresses the 'good' parts" ProSense Dec 2012 #11
Not when compared to what could/should have been they aren't. Lionessa Dec 2012 #14
Sure they are ProSense Dec 2012 #16
Then the best parts aren't good enough. Lionessa Dec 2012 #19
So is establishing ProSense Dec 2012 #21
David Ignatius reported Sunday... grasswire Dec 2012 #2
Would be good ProSense Dec 2012 #4
In the words of BabyGirl 1StrongBlackMan ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2012 #9
Because some people on DU just hate Obama? Scootaloo Dec 2012 #27
He's keeping Pelosi out of the talks? I didn't know that. Lionessa Dec 2012 #7
Boehner and Obama are mano a mano grasswire Dec 2012 #8
The President also meets individually with Pelosi and Reid. ProSense Dec 2012 #13
Speaking with is not the same as being in on the negotiations, Lionessa Dec 2012 #15
He spoke with Boehner. He spoke with Pelosi. ProSense Dec 2012 #17
If it was anyone but you I'd say it's unbelievable the twists and turns you're Lionessa Dec 2012 #20
Here ProSense Dec 2012 #23
"additional spending cuts and some long-term entitlement reform" - NO THANKS. forestpath Dec 2012 #12
Pelosi: "Democrats are ready to discuss even more savings..." ProSense Dec 2012 #18
Sure, it CAN be done. But I haven't heard PRESIDENT OBAMA unequivocally say so. forestpath Dec 2012 #22
Pelosi shares ProSense Dec 2012 #24
The more I read those words, the more I see a disconnect between forestpath Dec 2012 #25
What are you talking about? ProSense Dec 2012 #28
If President Obama is serious about his "plan," he or his spokespeople would be pushing forestpath Dec 2012 #29
In case you ProSense Dec 2012 #30
"as long as it’s combined with serious entitlement reform" cbrer Dec 2012 #26
Thank you, Pro Sense, for posting this..President Obama is doing Cha Dec 2012 #31
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