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Mon Oct 28, 2024, 11:12 AM

Oct 2024

https://harvardpolitics.com/abolishing-the-electoral-college-might-not-be-as-hard-as-you-think/#google_vignette

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Do you live in Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, Arizona, Georgia, or Nevada? Great news! Your vote is incredibly important for the 2024 presidential election. Unfortunately, if you live anywhere else, your vote is practically meaningless when determining who will be inaugurated next January.

The Electoral College’s winner-take-all system has long been criticized for allowing candidates to focus on a few “swing states” while ignoring the rest of the country. In 2020, for example, six million Californians voted for former President Trump, the most votes a Republican has ever received in any state in any race since the country’s founding. Yet, all 55 of California’s electoral votes went to Joe Biden, a crucial element of his victory. Similar phenomena happen in nearly every “safe state”; only Nebraska and Maine have attempted to create more proportional systems by dividing their electoral votes by congressional district.

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Should the Electoral College be abolished? [View all] DeeDeeNY Oct 2024 OP

Yes! SalamanderSleeps Oct 2024 #1

I second that. OLDMDDEM Oct 2024 #28

And they can start by eliminating the 1929 Permanent Apportionment Act Charging Triceratops Oct 2024 #34

Yes yes yes yes yes yes yes !!! ! ! ! !!!!! !!!! !!!! !!!! Trueblue1968 Oct 2024 #73

Not only that bucolic_frolic Oct 2024 #2

The Senate must be changed wiseowljedi Oct 2024 #30

add Daylight Savings Time to that list RainCaster Oct 2024 #82

It absolutely should be abolished, but good luck making it happen. tinrobot Oct 2024 #3

Which is why it is set up that way. thatdemguy Oct 2024 #47

It's not true that "smaller states" wouldn't have their voices heard. Land doesn't vote. Their voters still vote. themaguffin Oct 2024 #4

And they have the same representation in the Senate as larger states. Lonestarblue Oct 2024 #27

Yes, but it will have to be done by Constitutional amendment, Ocelot II Oct 2024 #5

It's strange we went through the whole 20th century without the electoral college and the popular vote not matching Walleye Oct 2024 #6

Yes. We have been working toward it for 20 years. RedSpartan Oct 2024 #7

⬆️⬆️⬆️THIS⬆️⬆️⬆️ Think. Again. Oct 2024 #14

The reason the Supreme Court is now mostly unethical- DeeDeeNY Oct 2024 #23

Only extreme measures can end entrenched minority rule Charging Triceratops Oct 2024 #35

Can't rec this enough RANDYWILDMAN Oct 2024 #80

And imagine if your in a state thatdemguy Oct 2024 #48

Those smaller states Bettie Oct 2024 #8

Yes! SocialDemocrat61 Oct 2024 #9

Yes, of course, but it will be challenging to make it happen. NNadir Oct 2024 #10

2nd amendment is also a relic of slavery Jerry2144 Oct 2024 #54

I hadn't thought of it that way, but it makes sense. NNadir Oct 2024 #61

That makes no sense T all Ontheboundry Oct 2024 #70

YES Faux pas Oct 2024 #11

Yes. Those in smaller states do get their voices heard via their vote, just like everyone else In It to Win It Oct 2024 #12

Of course people in smaller states will have their voices heard... Think. Again. Oct 2024 #13

This is what the Founders thought DeeDeeNY Oct 2024 #20

We have tons of info on candidates without them having to campaign anywhere travelingthrulife Oct 2024 #22

Any candidate would still have to reach as many voters.... Think. Again. Oct 2024 #25

Is it really that much different than the current situation? misanthrope Oct 2024 #74

I honestly feel that my vote doesn't count DeeDeeNY Oct 2024 #15

It's not just a feeling--it's a fact hawkeye21 Oct 2024 #91

It's outlived it usefulness for slave states years ago. Emile Oct 2024 #16

No DeepWinter Oct 2024 #17

You're ignoring the tyranny of the minority Charging Triceratops Oct 2024 #37

It does exactly the opposite of what you said jcgoldie Oct 2024 #41

absolutely if..fish..had..wings Oct 2024 #18

Republicans were ready to do away with it when Emile Oct 2024 #19

Not eliminate, but reformulate the EC. cloudbase Oct 2024 #21

Can't each state already do that on their own? misanthrope Oct 2024 #76

That's why something like that would have to be imposed through federal legislation. cloudbase Oct 2024 #83

"Winner take all" rules should be abolished, at a minimum. CoopersDad Oct 2024 #24

I lived in NE for over 20 years and wondered why all states didn't award their EC RubyRose Oct 2024 #85

Yes, no doubt. walkingman Oct 2024 #26

Absolutely. Voltaire2 Oct 2024 #29

Yes, and this is from the granddaughter of an Elector in 1936. Boomerproud Oct 2024 #31

Yes. I am from a smallsh state. BoomaofBandM Oct 2024 #32

Abolishing the Electoral College will take decades, but the Maine/Nebraska model is not bad WSHazel Oct 2024 #33

How the Electoral College Was Nearly Abolished in 1970. (published in 2020) usonian Oct 2024 #36

Southern lawmakers bdamomma Oct 2024 #45

Why bother with the 60-vote filibuster? Polybius Oct 2024 #69

In 1970, it would have been mostly a distinction without a difference, the threshold for cloture was 67 tritsofme Oct 2024 #71

Of course, and obviously. Been talking about it at least since 2000. msfiddlestix Oct 2024 #38

wouldnt have their voices heard? jcgoldie Oct 2024 #39

As a Californian my voice is never heard. The Electoral College needs to go. Beaverhausen Oct 2024 #40

It should never have existed in the first place. DavidDvorkin Oct 2024 #42

Yes bdamomma Oct 2024 #43

Find your State's National Popular Vote organization SeanHG Oct 2024 #44

attaching this article bdamomma Oct 2024 #46

It won't be changed until the Repugs bdjhawk Oct 2024 #49

It sure hasn't prevented what it was for. Blue Full Moon Oct 2024 #50

As long as the senate overrepresents small states they will be heard JT45242 Oct 2024 #51

Yes I am sick of 3 years campaigns kimbutgar Oct 2024 #52

Yes. moondust Oct 2024 #53

Virtually impossible to abolish. The popular vote compact would fix it though. bullimiami Oct 2024 #55

Yes. kairos12 Oct 2024 #56

It's just awful minority rule. NCDem47 Oct 2024 #57

YES AmBlue Oct 2024 #58

Yes. But a Constitutional convention to change it -- in this era -- might leave us worse off than we are. Silent Type Oct 2024 #59

The question is how to be able to do it. diane in sf Oct 2024 #60

It was outdated a hundred years ago. bif Oct 2024 #62

'Without it, those in smaller states wouldn't have their voices heard." J_William_Ryan Oct 2024 #63

Yes BlueKota Oct 2024 #64

YES! 1WorldHope Oct 2024 #65

Tim Walz says yes DeeDeeNY Oct 2024 #66

Yes , by all means. republianmushroom Oct 2024 #67

Currently, only 7 states matter. Funtatlaguy Oct 2024 #68

Of course Stargleamer Oct 2024 #72

Hell,yes! Why should it matter where in the hell ya live? One person, one vote. Geography should have no say. hawkeye21 Oct 2024 #75

No Zeitghost Oct 2024 #77

YES YES YES YES YES Brainstormy Oct 2024 #78

ASAP... We have to stop making the same mistake only JCMach1 Oct 2024 #79

The Senate is Too Heavily Embedded to change Metaphorical Oct 2024 #81

Yes LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2024 #84

Yes how many other developed countries have such a bullshit procedure? Dem4life1234 Oct 2024 #86

yes, after i learned it was for slave states. pansypoo53219 Oct 2024 #87

of course it should be abolished Skittles Oct 2024 #88

Hell yeah The Third Doctor Oct 2024 #89

Whenever a Republican tells me we need term limits, I reply Emile Oct 2024 #90

It would take the fun out of this: Polybius Oct 2024 #92

Let's look at the last 32 years Baggies Oct 2024 #93

Yes as soon as it is possible ArnoldLayne Oct 2024 #94