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In reply to the discussion: Whats The Issue On Medicare Advantage Plans..... [View all]dalton99a
(94,247 posts)62. +1. Because of denials and refusals to pay
https://www.newsweek.com/texas-cancer-patients-may-need-new-doctors-after-insurance-changes-1976905
Texas Cancer Patients May Need New Doctors After Insurance Changes
Published Oct 29, 2024 at 6:26 PM EDT
Updated Oct 30, 2024 at 2:40 PM EDT
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Chris Fong, a Medicare specialist and the CEO of Smile Insurance Group, said while insurance companies are attempting to save money by reducing the costs of services and adding on steps like prior authorization or referrals, medical centers are also experiencing inflation on medical supplies and doctor salaries.
"Unfortunately, the patients are some of the most affected through these contract negotiations," Fong told Newsweek. "The advice we give to our clients is to look at how they would like their healthcare to operate. If they prefer the flexibility to choose doctors and medical providers with less limitations, they should consider traditional Medicare with a supplement and prescription plan."
Ryan said insurance companies are increasingly using 'network narrowing' as a cost control strategy.
"They're betting that by excluding expensive providers, they can offer lower premiums," Ryan said, adding that they don't always consider the human cost.
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https://www.statnews.com/2023/03/13/medicare-advantage-plans-denial-artificial-intelligence/
Denied by AI: How Medicare Advantage plans use algorithms to cut off care for seniors in need
By Casey Ross and Bob Herman
March 13, 2023
An algorithm, not a doctor, predicted a rapid recovery for Frances Walter, an 85-year-old Wisconsin woman with a shattered left shoulder and an allergy to pain medicine. In 16.6 days, it estimated, she would be ready to leave her nursing home.
On the 17th day, her Medicare Advantage insurer, Security Health Plan, followed the algorithm and cut off payment for her care, concluding she was ready to return to the apartment where she lived alone. Meanwhile, medical notes in June 2019 showed Walters pain was maxing out the scales and that she could not dress herself, go to the bathroom, or even push a walker without help.
It would take more than a year for a federal judge to conclude the insurers decision was at best, speculative and that Walter was owed thousands of dollars for more than three weeks of treatment. While she fought the denial, she had to spend down her life savings and enroll in Medicaid just to progress to the point of putting on her shoes, her arm still in a sling.
Health insurance companies have rejected medical claims for as long as theyve been around. But a STAT investigation found artificial intelligence is now driving their denials to new heights in Medicare Advantage, the taxpayer-funded alternative to traditional Medicare that covers more than 31 million people.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/28/health/medicare-advantage-plans-report.html
http://web.archive.org/web/20240829155209/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/28/health/medicare-advantage-plans-report.html
Medicare Advantage Plans Often Deny Needed Care, Federal Report Finds
Investigators urged increased oversight of the program, saying that insurers deny tens of thousands of authorization requests annually.
By Reed Abelson
Published April 28, 2022 | Updated Dec. 3, 2022
Every year, tens of thousands of people enrolled in private Medicare Advantage plans are denied necessary care that should be covered under the program, federal investigators concluded in a report published on Thursday.
The investigators urged Medicare officials to strengthen oversight of these private insurance plans, which provide benefits to 28 million older Americans, and called for increased enforcement against plans with a pattern of inappropriate denials.
Advantage plans have become an increasingly popular option among older Americans, offering privatized versions of Medicare that are frequently less expensive and provide a wider array of benefits than the traditional government-run program offers.
Enrollment in Advantage plans has more than doubled over the last decade, and half of Medicare beneficiaries are expected to choose a private insurer over the traditional government program in the next few years.
The industrys main trade group claims people choose Medicare Advantage because it delivers better services, better access to care and better value. But federal investigators say there is troubling evidence that plans are delaying or even preventing Medicare beneficiaries from getting medically necessary care.
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https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2024/07/25/nx-s1-5050850/california-tries-but-fails-to-fix-a-major-medicare-loophole-for-seniors
California tries but fails to fix a major Medicare loophole for seniors
July 25, 2024 9:19 AM ET
By Kate Wolffe
...
In 2023, Scripps Health, a major San Diego hospital system, stopped accepting Medicare Advantage plans, saying the plans paid less than other insurers for the same treatments, and required doctors to navigate prior authorization protocols that were burdensome and time-consuming.
The move sent seniors in the San Diego region scrambling to sign up for traditional Medicare, supplemented by Medigap plans. The high numbers of people who found Medigap plans unaffordable drew the attention of State Senator Catherine Blakespear, who put forward a Medigap reform bill.
Four states reformed Medigap in the 1990s Connecticut, Maine, Massachusetts, and New York. The rest, including California, allow Medigap insurers wide leeway in setting prices and issuing denials.
Californias bill would have created a 90-day open enrollment period for Medigap, every single year. That would allow seniors to opt-in or out each year and not be denied or face exorbitant premiums due to pre-existing conditions.
Cancer or any chronic illness is very, very expensive, and that's why having supplemental coverage is important, said Adam Zarrin, a policy analyst for the [Leukemia and Lymphoma] Society. The second part is about making sure that patients have access to the best health care available.
Zarrin says leukemia and other blood cancers are more commonly diagnosed in older adults, after age 55.
...
Texas Cancer Patients May Need New Doctors After Insurance Changes
Published Oct 29, 2024 at 6:26 PM EDT
Updated Oct 30, 2024 at 2:40 PM EDT
...
Chris Fong, a Medicare specialist and the CEO of Smile Insurance Group, said while insurance companies are attempting to save money by reducing the costs of services and adding on steps like prior authorization or referrals, medical centers are also experiencing inflation on medical supplies and doctor salaries.
"Unfortunately, the patients are some of the most affected through these contract negotiations," Fong told Newsweek. "The advice we give to our clients is to look at how they would like their healthcare to operate. If they prefer the flexibility to choose doctors and medical providers with less limitations, they should consider traditional Medicare with a supplement and prescription plan."
Ryan said insurance companies are increasingly using 'network narrowing' as a cost control strategy.
"They're betting that by excluding expensive providers, they can offer lower premiums," Ryan said, adding that they don't always consider the human cost.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
https://www.statnews.com/2023/03/13/medicare-advantage-plans-denial-artificial-intelligence/
Denied by AI: How Medicare Advantage plans use algorithms to cut off care for seniors in need
By Casey Ross and Bob Herman
March 13, 2023
An algorithm, not a doctor, predicted a rapid recovery for Frances Walter, an 85-year-old Wisconsin woman with a shattered left shoulder and an allergy to pain medicine. In 16.6 days, it estimated, she would be ready to leave her nursing home.
On the 17th day, her Medicare Advantage insurer, Security Health Plan, followed the algorithm and cut off payment for her care, concluding she was ready to return to the apartment where she lived alone. Meanwhile, medical notes in June 2019 showed Walters pain was maxing out the scales and that she could not dress herself, go to the bathroom, or even push a walker without help.
It would take more than a year for a federal judge to conclude the insurers decision was at best, speculative and that Walter was owed thousands of dollars for more than three weeks of treatment. While she fought the denial, she had to spend down her life savings and enroll in Medicaid just to progress to the point of putting on her shoes, her arm still in a sling.
Health insurance companies have rejected medical claims for as long as theyve been around. But a STAT investigation found artificial intelligence is now driving their denials to new heights in Medicare Advantage, the taxpayer-funded alternative to traditional Medicare that covers more than 31 million people.
...
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https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/28/health/medicare-advantage-plans-report.html
http://web.archive.org/web/20240829155209/https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/28/health/medicare-advantage-plans-report.html
Medicare Advantage Plans Often Deny Needed Care, Federal Report Finds
Investigators urged increased oversight of the program, saying that insurers deny tens of thousands of authorization requests annually.
By Reed Abelson
Published April 28, 2022 | Updated Dec. 3, 2022
Every year, tens of thousands of people enrolled in private Medicare Advantage plans are denied necessary care that should be covered under the program, federal investigators concluded in a report published on Thursday.
The investigators urged Medicare officials to strengthen oversight of these private insurance plans, which provide benefits to 28 million older Americans, and called for increased enforcement against plans with a pattern of inappropriate denials.
Advantage plans have become an increasingly popular option among older Americans, offering privatized versions of Medicare that are frequently less expensive and provide a wider array of benefits than the traditional government-run program offers.
Enrollment in Advantage plans has more than doubled over the last decade, and half of Medicare beneficiaries are expected to choose a private insurer over the traditional government program in the next few years.
The industrys main trade group claims people choose Medicare Advantage because it delivers better services, better access to care and better value. But federal investigators say there is troubling evidence that plans are delaying or even preventing Medicare beneficiaries from getting medically necessary care.
...
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https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2024/07/25/nx-s1-5050850/california-tries-but-fails-to-fix-a-major-medicare-loophole-for-seniors
California tries but fails to fix a major Medicare loophole for seniors
July 25, 2024 9:19 AM ET
By Kate Wolffe
...
In 2023, Scripps Health, a major San Diego hospital system, stopped accepting Medicare Advantage plans, saying the plans paid less than other insurers for the same treatments, and required doctors to navigate prior authorization protocols that were burdensome and time-consuming.
The move sent seniors in the San Diego region scrambling to sign up for traditional Medicare, supplemented by Medigap plans. The high numbers of people who found Medigap plans unaffordable drew the attention of State Senator Catherine Blakespear, who put forward a Medigap reform bill.
Four states reformed Medigap in the 1990s Connecticut, Maine, Massachusetts, and New York. The rest, including California, allow Medigap insurers wide leeway in setting prices and issuing denials.
Californias bill would have created a 90-day open enrollment period for Medigap, every single year. That would allow seniors to opt-in or out each year and not be denied or face exorbitant premiums due to pre-existing conditions.
Cancer or any chronic illness is very, very expensive, and that's why having supplemental coverage is important, said Adam Zarrin, a policy analyst for the [Leukemia and Lymphoma] Society. The second part is about making sure that patients have access to the best health care available.
Zarrin says leukemia and other blood cancers are more commonly diagnosed in older adults, after age 55.
...
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Medicare Advantage Plans will no longer be accepted at the hospitals in my county that belong
Deuxcents
Oct 2024
#3
We need more and different small businesses making our own medical supplies in this country.
Jit423
Oct 2024
#64
Those same hospitals are going to end up denying original Medicare as well...
Demsrule86
Oct 2024
#72
That is how it is SUPPOSED to work, but unlike traditional Medicare, Medicare Advantage Plans rely heavily on
PA Democrat
Oct 2024
#67
It is how it has worked for me...and most of you advocating original Medicare are on
Demsrule86
Oct 2024
#73
Original Medicare doesn't ' have givebacks' now. But some Advantage plans return Part B
Demsrule86
Nov 2024
#121
Every year individual plans can change details such as premiums, copays and deductibles as well as the "perks"
PA Democrat
Oct 2024
#107
What ever you call the original Medicare plans that pay the 20% Medicare doesn't cover
Demsrule86
Nov 2024
#122
You are misinformed as to how Medicare supplement plans work. Part G Supplement Plans (the most common type plan)
PA Democrat
Nov 2024
#150
That is not true. Advantage must cover the same thing as Medicare...hospice care is
Demsrule86
Nov 2024
#133
Medicare advantage plans are designed by the insurance company to maximize profit or income.
Jacson6
Oct 2024
#5
MA sales people receive $626 for first year (sign-up commission) and $313 every year after that (automatic renewals)
dalton99a
Oct 2024
#111
wowie. That helps me figure out who among the navigators or whatever they are called now, to choose from.
mahina
Nov 2024
#144
you know out of network doctors which is why I have a plan that covers that...if I amw
Demsrule86
Nov 2024
#125
I have been sick since July of 22. My care has cost millions. I spent 46 days in the
Demsrule86
Nov 2024
#128
Cherry picking and lemon dropping. Medicare Advantage isn't Medicare, it's private insurance
Gaugamela
Oct 2024
#11
It started under Clinton and was updated under Bush. I'll give you that. It's called
Gaugamela
Oct 2024
#33
I'm not for taking something away from over half Medicare beneficiaries because some don't
Silent Type
Oct 2024
#51
I agree that we can't pull the rug out from half of recipients. The problem is that
Gaugamela
Oct 2024
#52
Me too. Now, here's the question-- If we could get a few GOPers to support MFA that is based
Silent Type
Oct 2024
#55
We're in agreement on this. Of course, MFA won't pass under current conditions,
Gaugamela
Nov 2024
#135
It probably looked like a good temporary compromise at the time. Please see post #139 below.
Gaugamela
Nov 2024
#140
It was designed to attract participants by offering lower premiums, and thus transfer the whole program
Gaugamela
Nov 2024
#139
And so does Medigap...what is the difference? Advantage is more affordable...and you
Demsrule86
Nov 2024
#138
It is part C of Medicare. I suggest you google it. And frankly I post so folks realize they
Demsrule86
Nov 2024
#129
Medicare Advantage is Corporate owned and is not original Medicare. They hook some people
Deuxcents
Oct 2024
#15
You can get back into Medicare, but you will pay a monthly penalty, and pre-existing conditions
Gaugamela
Oct 2024
#35
That doesn't sound right... you should have no trouble getting back into Original Medicare WITHOUT penalties
Jmb 4 Harris-Walz
Oct 2024
#43
The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid (CMS) administers Medicare, a federal health insurance program
Deuxcents
Oct 2024
#47
if you like health insurance (having bean counters making decisions), get Medicare "Advantage"
splunge63
Oct 2024
#16
Standard Medicare with a Medi-Gap Plan (supplemental plan) and Part D (drugs) is the best decision overall.
Jmb 4 Harris-Walz
Oct 2024
#19
Financial issues usually trump Medi-gap benefits. Can't argue with that.
Jmb 4 Harris-Walz
Oct 2024
#45
Wow, if you spend that kind of money a month for an advantage plan why didn't you stick with Original Medicare with a
Jmb 4 Harris-Walz
Oct 2024
#46
I have Medicare A and B. I pay out of pocket for my scripts...about $90.00/qtr.
OAITW r.2.0
Oct 2024
#49
I have Kaiser, which is a closed system - they are the provider and the insurer.
Sibelius Fan
Oct 2024
#32
Medicare "Advantage" is another gift from the GWB years. It's an attempt to privatize Medicare.
OMGWTF
Oct 2024
#34
Original Medicare has limits on that too. And facilities will cut you off if they think
Silent Type
Oct 2024
#48
I am below the poverty level poor, retired, and an MA plan is hands down all I can afford.
elocs
Oct 2024
#63
The main reason that I am not screwed is that I have great health for someone 72.
elocs
Nov 2024
#166
+1. Project 2025 would make Medicare Advantage the default option for enrollees
dalton99a
Oct 2024
#66
I just signed up for Medicare, but am not retired, so I still have employer insurance.
haele
Oct 2024
#68
Once on an advantage plan, it can be impossible in some states to revert to medicare. Also, they're not paying all claim
lindysalsagal
Oct 2024
#70
My clinic and many others have stopped taking Medicare Advantage because
travelingthrulife
Nov 2024
#118
I have an elderly neighbor who wishes she hadn't signed up for Medicare Advantage
dalton99a
Nov 2024
#119
You can choose Medicare Advantage at any time; in most states, you only have ONE chance to choose Medicare
Ms. Toad
Nov 2024
#143
+1. Medicare Advantage plans will get between $500 and $600 billion from the government next year
dalton99a
Nov 2024
#145
The only exception to going back to Orignal Medicare with a guarantee Medigap plan
Desert grandma
Nov 2024
#160