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nadinbrzezinski

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27. I will leave morality out of it...nice RW talking point by the way

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 03:27 AM

Dec 2012

Social stability...every time a society reaches a certain imbalance in the distribution of wealth, for example when certain heirs own something like 40% of all wealth, you are setting yourself for guillotine time.

You know...if you have so much that there is no way you can enjoy it because you cannot safely walk the streets that is a problem.

But hey, the canard here at play is that the mythical left believes people should not make money...wrong. It is in the actual distribution. You should ask what is a healthy one where those who are well off don't have to fear kidnapping, murder, and a few other things. But hey, if you believe in no limits, you are in good company, Marie Antoinette even advised the people to eat cake.

By the way I will leave the morality to those quoting St Luke.

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Is it immoral to make a certain amount or have a certain amount of wealth? [View all] BrentWil Dec 2012 OP

It's not the amount. It's how you got it DavidDvorkin Dec 2012 #1

Yep. (nt) Posteritatis Dec 2012 #45

what you do with it ? DRS Dec 2012 #62

Legally, yes, but that's not what we're talking about. DavidDvorkin Dec 2012 #66

Or if it's such an amount that you have to keep it offshore... dchill Dec 2012 #101

Interesting point DavidDvorkin Dec 2012 #106

Or more likely, a moral hurricane. dchill Dec 2012 #110

That's another good point. DavidDvorkin Dec 2012 #111

And as importantly, how you treat other people when you are rich. teddy51 Dec 2012 #2

It's not the amount, it's how you got it Throd Dec 2012 #3

It is when you gain that wealth at the cost of those around you liberal N proud Dec 2012 #4

It is inhuman to cheat people, even if it's legal, to get there (eom) NYC_SKP Dec 2012 #5

It's what you did to get it. JaneyVee Dec 2012 #6

If you're talking amassing more money than one can spend in, say, a hundred lifetimes, yes. GreenEyedLefty Dec 2012 #7

So it is ok to make people poor as long as you give some back to charity? liberal N proud Dec 2012 #8

No, and while I can see how you might get that from my post, that is not what I meant to imply. GreenEyedLefty Dec 2012 #11

Please explain liberal N proud Dec 2012 #14

I apologize for my posts last night... I was quite emotional and tired GreenEyedLefty Dec 2012 #41

Well put DRS Dec 2012 #65

What if you use it to build a plant that makes you richer but also employs hundreds of workers? dkf Dec 2012 #30

Philanthropy cannot create value? Fumesucker Dec 2012 #43

Would you rather be handed $10,000 one time or be employed? dkf Dec 2012 #91

$10,000 or a $1 per day job? Fumesucker Dec 2012 #92

$1/day? Where do you live? Ethiopia? dkf Dec 2012 #93

I live here Fumesucker Dec 2012 #94

yes but marions ghost Dec 2012 #87

It's not a simple question, if there's not a simple number next to it Xipe Totec Dec 2012 #9

Simple answer: No, not of itself Hekate Dec 2012 #10

Why isn't it? NT BrentWil Dec 2012 #12

..... Stinky The Clown Dec 2012 #13

no La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2012 #15

Some examples of "immoral" ProSense Dec 2012 #16

This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Dec 2012 #17

You should recognize it by now RandiFan1290 Dec 2012 #34

It is immoral to make any more than I do jberryhill Dec 2012 #18

Do you think it's immoral? subterranean Dec 2012 #19

It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle... hunter Dec 2012 #20

Hmm...You idea on how they should be treated isn't very Jesus based. NT BrentWil Dec 2012 #32

It is absolutely "Jesus based" hunter Dec 2012 #54

That's one of the stupidest canards RWNJs repeat about the left. eShirl Dec 2012 #21

Shah he's on a roll nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #25

no it's how you got the money... one_voice Dec 2012 #22

No. Nye Bevan Dec 2012 #23

Question centers around what is right and wrong Trillo Dec 2012 #24

It isn't the amount, per se MrScorpio Dec 2012 #26

I will leave morality out of it...nice RW talking point by the way nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #27

So much condemning and saying I am "right" wing BrentWil Dec 2012 #33

No, elleng Dec 2012 #28

yes when that wealth causes others to not be able to have survival, undergroundpanther Dec 2012 #29

Not everyone gets rich by screwing someone else democrattotheend Dec 2012 #58

Not true guardian Dec 2012 #59

I can be very ignostic about this.... defacto7 Dec 2012 #31

Yes. MrSlayer Dec 2012 #35

It is immoral to never have enough. aandegoons Dec 2012 #36

yes. HiPointDem Dec 2012 #37

No.. sendero Dec 2012 #38

No, it's not. NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #39

No, but let's not assume they're doing anything with that wealth except lining their own coffers. HughBeaumont Dec 2012 #40

It is inhumane to hoard vast resources while others have nothing Marrah_G Dec 2012 #42

You know, it probably is union_maid Dec 2012 #44

Yes. GeorgeGist Dec 2012 #46

I think it's immoral to hoard money when people are starving gollygee Dec 2012 #47

Is there such a thing as morality, and if so, whose morality are you talking about Coyotl Dec 2012 #48

Depends if you made it honestly, not legally mind you, but honestly Cleita Dec 2012 #49

Is it immoral that JK Rowling sold so many damn books? mainer Dec 2012 #50

She lives in England right? Marrah_G Dec 2012 #63

On which income she gladly, PROUDLY paid her taxes. eShirl Dec 2012 #74

The question was whether it's immoral that she's rich mainer Dec 2012 #80

No Incitatus Dec 2012 #77

I know plenty of people who make their wealth in ways like Rowling mainer Dec 2012 #81

no AlexSatan Dec 2012 #51

God, and the devil, are in the details riqster Dec 2012 #52

No, it's not immoral... macwriter Dec 2012 #53

Definitely not to make a certain amount democrattotheend Dec 2012 #55

Nope JustAnotherGen Dec 2012 #56

This is a good, complicated question jollyreaper2112 Dec 2012 #57

"Behind every great fortune lies a great crime" Still true today. n/t Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #60

What "great crimes" did JK Rowling commit? (nt) Nye Bevan Dec 2012 #61

I thought about answering this and the other two replies. It would be long and require Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #71

You thought about answering it, but realized that JK Rowling has a great fortune, Nye Bevan Dec 2012 #79

No, but as I said. It would require far too much time to explain for no purpose. Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #85

OK. That makes perfect sense. Nye Bevan Dec 2012 #89

Is the "I haven't the time to explain my wisdom to fools like you" attitude a crime? Silent3 Dec 2012 #95

OK here's the shortest version. Participation in a crime is a crime. Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #96

Some people get it, some people don't. PETRUS Dec 2012 #97

Well put. Most didn't get it when Balzac said it over a century ago and most Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #99

Balzac made money from his writing. Silent3 Dec 2012 #107

And was born into a wealthy family. Might have aided in his perception, don't you think? Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #108

Since Balzac didn't generate a "great fortune" for himself then somehow his for-profit publishers... Silent3 Dec 2012 #112

Book publishing is criminal? Movie making is criminal? Silent3 Dec 2012 #98

hmmmmmm... BrentWil Dec 2012 #68

No ... What crime did the founder of COSTCO commit? nt Raine Dec 2012 #70

Egalitarian Thug's time is apparently very valuable, Nye Bevan Dec 2012 #90

Yes. oldhippie Dec 2012 #64

What side of "make a certain amount" or "have a certain amount" scale of immorality are you on? haele Dec 2012 #67

+1000 nt laundry_queen Dec 2012 #100

No but it's immoral to have your boot on the neck of people Raine Dec 2012 #69

No, but having great wealth and doing nothing to benefit the less fortunate is contemptible. nt Incitatus Dec 2012 #72

My what an incredibly subjective question you asked there. Rex Dec 2012 #73

The drive to accumulate more than we could ever use, ronnie624 Dec 2012 #75

you damn well know the answer to that Skittles Dec 2012 #76

Not at all. raouldukelives Dec 2012 #78

In and of itself? Nnnnnnope. cherokeeprogressive Dec 2012 #82

Yes it is immoral cpwm17 Dec 2012 #83

It depends on how one accumulated that wealth. Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #84

no, Mitt Enrique Dec 2012 #86

Look at how the money was made... marions ghost Dec 2012 #88

This message was self-deleted by its author ann--- Dec 2012 #102

NO, not at all. lalalu Dec 2012 #103

No. MoonchildCA Dec 2012 #104

The capitalist system is immoral limpyhobbler Dec 2012 #105

Yes. Zoeisright Dec 2012 #109