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jschurchin

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21. Do the majority have the option to vote to decertify the union?

Wed Dec 12, 2012, 11:04 AM

Dec 2012

Yes.
The question is do they really want to do that? Here is why. Once you decertify you cannot vote again to be represented by another Union for a period of one year. Your employer can come to the employees the day after you vote to decertify and explain to you that wages have been cut by 25% and you no longer have any benefits. Do you know what your recourse is?
Well you can go on strike, but then your fired. Or you can petition the NLRB for unfair treatment, and we all know how lightning fast any government agency works, in the meantime big pay cut and no benefits.

People need to go back and study labor history. All of the hard fought wages and benefits enjoyed by the American workforce today is because they were forced from the business owners by organization.

Ask yourself, if you had all the power over your workforce, why would you give a shit about them. There are always more where they came from. Ask the Koch brothers. Think they give a shit about their employees?

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What "Right to Work" really means [View all] louis c Dec 2012 OP

An excellent explanation of what's at stake. Thank you! Laurian Dec 2012 #1

There is no such thing as right to work period. RegieRocker Dec 2012 #2

Good reductio ad absurdum caraher Dec 2012 #3

To give you another idea.... James48 Dec 2012 #4

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Do the majority have the option to vote to decertify the union? jschurchin Dec 2012 #21

So in the case you described, they are freeloaders forthemiddle Dec 2012 #25

iN MY UNIT James48 Dec 2012 #29

21 People wanted to decertify the union? drm604 Dec 2012 #57

RTW helps employers discriminate against pro-union, identify how a worker will vote D-Lee Dec 2012 #5

+1 Kick and Recommend Not Sure Dec 2012 #6

Thanks for Posting! Sherman A1 Dec 2012 #7

It must suck for those who are not in a union in their job. 88mph Dec 2012 #8

it does. I got away from a right-to-work state job... see link nightscanner59 Dec 2012 #44

In many case dues paid are also a tax deduction... Historic NY Dec 2012 #9

Thank You FiggyJay Dec 2012 #10

Thank you. Starry Messenger Dec 2012 #12

very well said. Memorable. MrYikes Dec 2012 #13

are your union dues really only $500 a year? hfojvt Dec 2012 #14

I would say that's near ipfilter Dec 2012 #19

Roughly louis c Dec 2012 #38

BEST explanation I have read or heard! annabanana Dec 2012 #15

Thanks louis c Dec 2012 #54

The true description is ... PrMaine Dec 2012 #16

the "death spiral" ewagner Dec 2012 #17

K&R 99Forever Dec 2012 #18

Right to serf Bosso 63 Dec 2012 #20

Thanks for a good explanaton. Since I'm retired, I haven't been paying much attention to this. nt Flatulo Dec 2012 #22

"right to work" . . . burnsei sensei Dec 2012 #23

louis c -- I used this post in my blog today. Raine1967 Dec 2012 #24

I read your blog and found it very interesting louis c Dec 2012 #41

Kick. CrispyQ Dec 2012 #26

How do we get good info like this to workers and help unions get the message across locks Dec 2012 #27

I am embarrassed for her. I went to college with her and at one time she was a very nice girl. smirkymonkey Dec 2012 #35

The "freedom" for to refuse to pay dues does not continue to unions "freedom" to refuse to represent Thinkingabout Dec 2012 #28

It should be reframed as "The Freeloader Act" since it allows non-union workers to not pay Unions Larkspur Dec 2012 #30

I call them parasites Major Nikon Dec 2012 #40

Yep, it's the same way in NY RoccoR5955 Dec 2012 #31

+1 standingtall Dec 2012 #36

i live and work in florida, a right to work state . . . ellenfl Dec 2012 #32

It means the serfs had better get right to work, woo me with science Dec 2012 #33

"Right-to-Work" is just another madeup GOP word to make something stupid sound pleasant LynneSin Dec 2012 #34

Have you ever read "1984"? louis c Dec 2012 #37

It's been around for a long time. Meet the racist fascist fuck and the timeline that leads Luminous Animal Dec 2012 #43

What I say to the Koch Brothers is this: OrwellwasRight Dec 2012 #50

I agree... Lady Freedom Returns Dec 2012 #39

Unions have zero choice... SHRED Dec 2012 #42

working in a "right to work" state scenario nightscanner59 Dec 2012 #45

Great Explanation!! Thank You Louis C. Oldtimeralso Dec 2012 #46

Brother, you're just like me louis c Dec 2012 #49

Gov Snyder on NPR's Marketplace Show This Morning Iggy Dec 2012 #47

That part about "What if you could enjoy the benefits of US citizenship and opt out of paying taxes" tclambert Dec 2012 #48

Even NPR screwed this up! OrwellwasRight Dec 2012 #51

Last paragraph ChillZilla Dec 2012 #52

This explanation helps me understand Michigan, but They_Live Dec 2012 #53

Short answer, license to scab. lonestarnot Dec 2012 #55

Unions need to find a way to funnel the funds toby jo Dec 2012 #56