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cactusfractal

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50. This. Fucking. Here.

Reply to BlueTsunami2018 (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 6, 2024, 09:06 PM

Nov 2024

People with privilege always assume their opponents are going to be honorable. They have the luxury of saying "When they go low, we go high", because when *they* go low, it doesn't affect the people pushing the grating and ineffectual narrative of lovingkindness for our literal enemies.

Fuck.

That.

Americans are Going. To. Die. because of this scumbag.

And you can take that high road to fucking nowhere... or you can realize that "fight" sometimes *doesn't* mean "talk".

Are you gonna fight?

Or are you Just. Gonna. Talk?

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President Biden should pardon Hunter, plead fatigue, retire early and make Kamala the 47th President of the U.S. [View all] Jack Valentino Nov 2024 OP

Hunter should be pardoned. Demsrule86 Nov 2024 #1

Hunter is charged with markodochartaigh Nov 2024 #53

Hunter is actually charged with being a Biden not paying his taxes on time meow2u3 Nov 2024 #92

My comment. 90-percent Nov 2024 #123

It would be sweet, but gaming the system is their thing, not ours. A dad pardoning his son, sure. MMBeilis Nov 2024 #2

Do you think Joe isn't tired ? NT Jack Valentino Nov 2024 #4

????? MMBeilis Nov 2024 #174

And that's why they've won the game. BlueTsunami2018 Nov 2024 #6

Exactly! Omnipresent Nov 2024 #27

This. Fucking. Here. cactusfractal Nov 2024 #50

Gotta know. Your signature line...Robert Heinlein? summer_in_TX Nov 2024 #61

Okay. Tell us exactly how you are going to "fight" and not just talk. onenote Nov 2024 #72

This post has 44 recs. BComplex Nov 2024 #99

The Supreme Court says a President can do what he wants...we don't have to follow the rules Demsrule86 Nov 2024 #7

Bingo. sheshe2 Nov 2024 #9

Exactly. If they want to play ball, then goddamn it, we can too. paleotn Nov 2024 #43

You know Chump is going to pardon everyone who got convicted for Jan. 6th FakeNoose Nov 2024 #65

There should be a requirement that DUers try to understand the immunity decision before they post about it. onenote Nov 2024 #70

Also, SCOTUS gave themselves the power to Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2024 #81

Not sure what that has to do with the post I was addressing onenote Nov 2024 #82

It is on the same theme: poor comprehension of Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2024 #83

The problem is that he can't be prosecuted while president and after seems to be too difficult. Lonestarblue Nov 2024 #91

Too difficult for a Republican, sure. Ursus Rex Nov 2024 #109

Thanks for this! ShazzieB Nov 2024 #120

And the "something" he does has to be in marybourg Nov 2024 #137

Pays to fight fire with fire sometimes. paleotn Nov 2024 #42

Gaming the system like constantly going on about cheating and then winning? tenderfoot Nov 2024 #79

When they go low we go to prison. Hope22 Nov 2024 #87

And you know what? GaYellowDawg Nov 2024 #98

You know what? You're right. I stand corrected. Let's go whole hog and gerrymander, register non-citizens,.... MMBeilis Nov 2024 #175

That wouldn't make her 47th Mr.Bee Nov 2024 #119

Who is the 38th President Zeitghost Nov 2024 #124

Gerald Ford Mr.Bee Nov 2024 #132

Right Zeitghost Nov 2024 #133

Wrong Emile Nov 2024 #128

Actually, Biden should give full pardon to everyone Trump threatens for Demsrule86 Nov 2024 #3

Would the orange shitbag honor any pardon granted zuul Nov 2024 #25

EXACTLY. Biden should pardon every Democrat in the US government, and every comedian Trump hates. ancianita Nov 2024 #105

THIS! Justice matters. Nov 2024 #113

aaaaaand... ancianita Nov 2024 #114

And give Jimmy Kimmel the medal of freedom Conjuay Nov 2024 #136

The pardon is good. The other is a stunt that won't gain us anything, IMO. Silent Type Nov 2024 #5

I think it would be good for party morale. Jack Valentino Nov 2024 #8

At this point what do we have to lose? n/t tinymontgomery Nov 2024 #16

I think we aim for mid-terms, reevaluate some issues, and forget about useless stunts. Silent Type Nov 2024 #17

So keeping Hunter out of jail is a useless stunt? tinymontgomery Nov 2024 #21

If there's even an election. rubbersole Nov 2024 #39

You so sure there will even be mid-terms? paleotn Nov 2024 #44

Yes. Silent Type Nov 2024 #52

You're far more trusting than me. paleotn Nov 2024 #69

Not gonna happen Alsteen Nov 2024 #94

More elections. Zeitghost Nov 2024 #71

Not for two years tinymontgomery Nov 2024 #76

We'd gain a competent woman president for two months. mzmolly Nov 2024 #22

I agree. She won't have the chance to be sworn in. Ever ecstatic Nov 2024 #10

Pardon Hunter definitely. The Unmitigated Gall Nov 2024 #11

Agree! cilla4progress Nov 2024 #12

I say, President Joseph Biden, BunkieBandit Nov 2024 #13

Im afraid trump will jump the line and impose himself early. Srkdqltr Nov 2024 #14

Can't. We still hold the levers of power. paleotn Nov 2024 #45

and exactly how do you think he could do that? onenote Nov 2024 #68

I can't believe his people haven't thought about it. Im sure Bidens folks have too. Srkdqltr Nov 2024 #95

Not possible. Elessar Zappa Nov 2024 #88

Now there's an idea!!! nt LAS14 Nov 2024 #15

No, he shouldn't (well, he should pardon Hunter). LisaM Nov 2024 #18

OK, if he really wants to... Jack Valentino Nov 2024 #19

Commute zipplewrath Nov 2024 #117

Pardon Nancy Pelosi, Hunter, Kamala, Doug Emhoff, Ilsa Nov 2024 #20

For what? They have never been convicted for crimes. Emile Nov 2024 #131

Blanket, pre-emptive pardons in the event Ilsa Nov 2024 #134

That would be saying they are guilty of something. Emile Nov 2024 #144

Trump has already brainwashed his followers Ilsa Nov 2024 #145

Still you need a conviction in order to pardon. Emile Nov 2024 #146

Didn't trump issue pardons to Ilsa Nov 2024 #166

First I heard of that. What were they guilty of where Emile Nov 2024 #171

You read my mind Retrograde Nov 2024 #23

We still control the Senate. Seems they could make a rapid confirmation Jack Valentino Nov 2024 #28

VP replacement has to be confirmed by both houses (n/t) Retrograde Nov 2024 #32

Yeah, I momentarily forgot about that. Oh well. Jack Valentino Nov 2024 #34

Maybe not Polybius Nov 2024 #40

That would be cool, even if the only thing it means is that it renders all of his 45-47 swag invalid. Wounded Bear Nov 2024 #24

Yup. I thought of that, but thanks for mentioning it. :D Jack Valentino Nov 2024 #26

Good one! paleotn Nov 2024 #47

President Harris is 47! I'm for that! oasis Nov 2024 #90

K &R nt berniesandersmittens Nov 2024 #29

This message was self-deleted by its author Lulu KC Nov 2024 #153

Joe said he would not pardon Hunter soandso Nov 2024 #30

Would be funny just to make all that 47 gear unusable Prairie Gates Nov 2024 #31

My thought exactly kerouac2 Nov 2024 #35

I want to proudly wear my Madam President baseball cap. Dem2theMax Nov 2024 #36

Let President Harris pardon him. live love laugh Nov 2024 #33

FFS NO! Hekate Nov 2024 #37

Being the only ones playing by the rules has gotten us precisely no where. paleotn Nov 2024 #49

That is a delicious scenario. Ping Tung Nov 2024 #38

He should activate the military and take the insurrectionists out! Easterncedar Nov 2024 #41

Sonia Sotomayor needs to retire in the next two months. eggplant Nov 2024 #46

If you missed anything, I will say "yes" to second it! colorado_ufo Nov 2024 #111

Yes, yes, yes!!! mysteryowl Nov 2024 #48

Why the hell not? As I mentioned above... paleotn Nov 2024 #51

But there really would be nothing "against the rules" about this--- Jack Valentino Nov 2024 #57

I actually had the same thought. niyad Nov 2024 #54

That would be sweet. n/t iluvtennis Nov 2024 #55

I can dig it. ColinC Nov 2024 #56

She'd probably get a pension upgrade too bucolic_frolic Nov 2024 #58

And a lifetime Secret Service detail. Jack Valentino Nov 2024 #60

I hope he pardons his son. He can say I changed my mind. Passages Nov 2024 #59

I would LOVE to see that happen! Silver Gaia Nov 2024 #62

All their 47 swag would be obsolete. There's that. nt Gore1FL Nov 2024 #63

All those new MAGA hats with 47 obsolete, lol. Emile Nov 2024 #130

this country does not deserve her. Takket Nov 2024 #64

WE...who Voted for Her...Deserve her! Thank you very much. electric_blue68 Nov 2024 #67

DUers keep posting ideas for what Joe should do that Joe would never in a million years do. onenote Nov 2024 #66

Oh, I know it's probably a non-starter--- but what the hell. Jack Valentino Nov 2024 #73

Desperation posts, I think maybe. MerryBlooms Nov 2024 #74

btw, rec MerryBlooms Nov 2024 #75

We can have our dreams Lulu KC Nov 2024 #154

The President we voted for ... dchill Nov 2024 #77

It wouldn't make any difference now. Jeebo Nov 2024 #78

I can see pardoning Hunter but why would he quit? doc03 Nov 2024 #80

Pardon 11 million undocumented illegals senegal1 Nov 2024 #84

Pardoning them wouldn't grant them legal status. onenote Nov 2024 #158

I absolutely adore this idea, but Biden is too much a traditionalist, I think. lark Nov 2024 #85

Would forever preclude the possibility of a Republican being the first woman President Shrek Nov 2024 #86

I love it! hawkeye21 Nov 2024 #89

Hunter should be pardoned, but how About you let Joe decide to finish out the term he won. Groundhawg Nov 2024 #93

President Biden Should NOW Fire Garland MrWowWow Nov 2024 #96

Stick Harris with a very short term as a lame duck best an incoming authoritarian administration? Martin68 Nov 2024 #97

Good idea Nigrum Cattus Nov 2024 #100

I totally agree!! Omnipresent Nov 2024 #101

Pardon Leonard Peltier. 1WorldHope Nov 2024 #102

lol just mess up all of their merch o7___o7 Nov 2024 #103

Official business of course. And it would be! Evolve Dammit Nov 2024 #104

He should definitely pardon Hunter. Elessar Zappa Nov 2024 #106

Brilliant!! ScubaSteve Nov 2024 #107

Bargaining iemanja Nov 2024 #108

An open pardon on death of TSF and Vance verargert Nov 2024 #110

Clarify please? Because it sounds like you are suggesting President Biden create an incentive for assassination. onenote Nov 2024 #157

I love this idea ballardgirl Nov 2024 #112

I love this idea SpankMe Nov 2024 #115

yes markie Nov 2024 #116

Wanted this as well... krkaufman Nov 2024 #118

The best idea connecticut yankee Nov 2024 #121

No. LudwigPastorius Nov 2024 #122

Fine. First fire 5 SCOTUS for cause, the remaining 4 decide it follows current law. Festivito Nov 2024 #125

You apparently lack a basic level of understanding of the Constitution. onenote Nov 2024 #156

You apparently lack a basic level of understanding of the word only. Festivito Nov 2024 #159

Physically incarcerating them would be unlawful and blocked/reversed immediately. So they wouldn't resign. onenote Nov 2024 #160

You insist that lower courts supersede the supreme court. We disagree there. Festivito Nov 2024 #163

Huh? The justices that you think can be summarily removed aren't going to be removed. onenote Nov 2024 #164

Wow. Time machine? Seal Team 6 secretly removes them, they're moved to a secret spot. ... Festivito Nov 2024 #165

What a great idea!! claudette Nov 2024 #126

I told my wife the samething yesterday. Emile Nov 2024 #127

Agreed FullySupportDems Nov 2024 #129

He said he wouldn't pardon HSB. He could grant him clemency and still keep his word. n/t Jacson6 Nov 2024 #135

No. Clemency only comes after conviction and marybourg Nov 2024 #138

HSB can speed it along. DJT won't give him clemency or a pardon. That is for sure. n/t Jacson6 Nov 2024 #140

HSB? marybourg Nov 2024 #141

Hunter Biden. n/t Jacson6 Nov 2024 #142

I think that is a SPLENDID idea. Junipercity Nov 2024 #139

Help Us Obi-Den Mr.Bee Nov 2024 #143

And lobby to replace DeJoy at USPS. ffr Nov 2024 #147

The president has no power to remove deJoy. onenote Nov 2024 #155

What are you talking about? Please read what I wrote. ffr Nov 2024 #167

Exactly who are we supposed to lobby? onenote Nov 2024 #168

Damn, what is your deal!!? Please read what I wrote. Here, I'll lead you to what I wrote ffr Nov 2024 #169

I agree to Hunter's pardon; TFG is getting off on his crimes, no reason Biden's son shouldn't as well. Jmb 4 Harris-Walz Nov 2024 #148

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2024 #149

I like this idea. EndlessWire Nov 2024 #150

LOVE this. NameAlreadyTaken Nov 2024 #151

Brilliant DaBronx Nov 2024 #152

The White House has confirmed the president has no plans to pardon Hunter. onenote Nov 2024 #161

He should pardon him anyway, for christ sake. Jack Valentino Nov 2024 #162

I think this was a bit before EndlessWire Nov 2024 #170

The White House reiterated no pardon for Hunter yesterday. onenote Nov 2024 #172

This message was self-deleted by its author onenote Nov 2024 #173

Do you guys remember back when Trump left office AkFemDem Nov 2024 #176

no ... maybe pardon Hunter but NO NO to the rest. enough chaos already we don't need more. Srkdqltr Nov 2024 #177