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WhiskeyGrinder

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23. As with most cohorts, including much, much larger ones.

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Hate to say this but this is the second time labor has dropped the ball. [View all] JohnSJ Nov 2024 OP

Remember Trump promised VMA131Marine Nov 2024 #1

+++ JohnSJ Nov 2024 #2

I don't see how this makes much difference JI7 Nov 2024 #6

Exactly, but people bought into it VMA131Marine Nov 2024 #27

taxes Homoudont Nov 2024 #24

Tariffs! VMA131Marine Nov 2024 #25

Yeah, that's not going to happen Johnny2X2X Nov 2024 #26

Well he certainly can't do it without Congress VMA131Marine Nov 2024 #29

A more accurate and productive framing would be that it is the second time that the Democratic leadership Ms. Toad Nov 2024 #3

Nonsense. Let's see how they get along with union busting Trump, musk. and JohnSJ Nov 2024 #4

Not the point - and actually that level of arrogance in taking it for granted that labor will vote Democratic, Ms. Toad Nov 2024 #10

Black women are the ones that vote democratic in highest numbers and then other various JI7 Nov 2024 #7

I never said it was the only issue. Ms. Toad Nov 2024 #9

What should Kamala have done? nt Phoenix61 Nov 2024 #12

I've addressed it numerous times, Ms. Toad Nov 2024 #39

Meh. I think it's a form of elitism to assume people are infants. yardwork Nov 2024 #13

We had the audacity to tell people they aren't experiencing what they're experiencing Sympthsical Nov 2024 #14

+1. Many people value food and housing over democracy. dalton99a Nov 2024 #15

Well atreides1 Nov 2024 #30

I'm not arguing the causes. I'm discussing the response to them. Sympthsical Nov 2024 #37

I respectfully disagree. I think they messaged to labor A LOT Coexist Nov 2024 #38

Unions didnt help us much. Trueblue1968 Nov 2024 #5

According to exit polls they split the vote, along with Latinos who also split the vote, and the JohnSJ Nov 2024 #8

I hate to say this Arthur_Frain Nov 2024 #11

How did they drop the ball? Harris won union households at a rate similar to Biden's in 2020. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2024 #16

The vote was split. Harris held onto union households, but by only a 10-point margin (54-44) compared to Biden's 16 JohnSJ Nov 2024 #20

It's always split, no cohort is a monolith. According to those NR numbers, the bleed was similar to Democrats as a WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2024 #21

Every vote counted Whiskey as I am sure you agree, but the differences this time around should have been much greater JohnSJ Nov 2024 #22

As with most cohorts, including much, much larger ones. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 2024 #23

Blaming labor, wow. Emile Nov 2024 #17

They were a contributing factor when they split their vote between Harris and trump. They were a major factor when they JohnSJ Nov 2024 #18

You think finger pointing will bring them back? Emile Nov 2024 #19

Didn't unions and labor not endorse because of internal poll kerouac2 Nov 2024 #28

we need to figure that out RJ_MacReady Nov 2024 #31

Change our message to what? The messaging wasn't the problem. That is what we stand for. I am afraid the problem JohnSJ Nov 2024 #34

Prevailing wage Nigrum Cattus Nov 2024 #32

Nice post Tickle Nov 2024 #33

trump is not a friend of labor or workers LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2024 #35

no kidding JohnSJ Nov 2024 #36