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In reply to the discussion: The latest murderer [View all]jtuck004
(15,882 posts)I could shorten this by responding to your assertion about vehicle design by noting that Ralph Nader (and a lot of people dedicated to making automobiles more compatible with life) fairly well proved that cars WERE engineered to kill, and it took the power of the people, the U.S. Government, to effect change.
But, nahh...
It's gory, but that's why they paid people like me to attend to the scene...
So, to any dear, tender reader, you may not want to read it. But it's my experience, and it's all around us.
You've been warned.
Warned again...
It's an accident when a meteorite falls on your moving car, (and a hell of a coincidence).
It's not an accident that some idiot doesn't slow down and slams into a family of 6 killing them because she was thinking about what a bad day she at work and wasn't paying attention. It's no damn accident when a person drinks too much alcohol and then drives into and rips up a family of people that people you know are friends with. In the process of extricating them you find the brains of their two infant children on the windows of what's left of their VW.
Note: If you are at an intersection with 4 cars after midnight it's a damn good possibility that 2 of those drivers are chemically impaired, and a near dead certainty that one is. Be careful out there
It wasn't an accident when the cheap sob of a CEO didn't buy a set of tires to replace the balding ones on his Cadillac Esplanade, which skidded in the rain while he and his wife were on a way to a party and wiped out whatever might have been of a homeless woman on the side of the road, far away from that road. The driver that left only a tennis shoe on the road after he or she knocked the guy changing his tire about 300 yards down the road, and then left? No accident there either.
The lists of such calls is near endless. If we are complicit we must all accept that, when Jan 1 rolls around, we are signing the death warrants for 30-40,000 people (last year first time under 40K in a bit). Can't argue we didn't see it coming. It would border on irrational to argue that we destroy all the cars (that alone would kill millions). Yet by the standards in the above post everyone who has a license is complicit in continuing this little death march for our own convenience. But those good and innocent people are not less dead because they weren't shot with a pistol. (or an AR-15).
If drivers don't do it for you, how about the people organizing against their employers, who, when someone else threw a bomb (after women and children and men were beaten and shot by the police over 2 days, police working at the behest of the employers), were hung because they were part of the protest, were among those who gave speeches, and thus were "complicit" even though there was no evidence that they knew anything about a bomb or could have predicted it?
One would have been in good company in 1886:
The majority view was expressed by the owner of a Chicago clothing firm who declared, No, I dont consider these people to have been found guilty of any offense, but they must be hanged...the labor movement must be crushed!"
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One could substitute the second amendment in those last words quite nicely
It feels weird to me to read where someone wants to paint others hands with the guilt of a psychopath, though I understand the emotion. But if one wants stop the next one instead of just lambasting people who had nothing to do with it to assuage their own ego, it might be better to ask if he could have been stopped if we weren't so far apart as a culture, where we sometimes just don't even see each other any more, much less talk in civil manner, and if there is anything that can be done about that.
Or maybe we just all lack knowledge to identify those among us who are ready to take any and all of us out on their way across the Stygian River.
Or maybe we need to restore what Reagan did away with, iirc.
If there are issues such as those which can be addressed, we should do so, or accept that we can't keep track of the activities of mass murderers in our midst.
Which will come as little comfort to the family of the woman killed here a couple months ago when a complete stranger stepped out of the bushes and stabbed her several times in the chest, and then ran off. She died in her daughter's arms.
Please don't tell me I'm complicit because I bought the Ginsu knives on that infomercial. I won't be able to handle the guilt.