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DET

(2,348 posts)
24. Not Buying It
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 06:42 PM
Nov 2024

Trump, Musk, and Putin stole the election. They cheated. Of course, this remains to be proven, after a thorough investigation - which I suspect has already started.

Primary evidence …
- Allegedly low Democratic turnout. For the most important election of our lifetimes. With women knowing that the Taliban is breathing down our backs. And with HUGE Democratic enthusiasm before the election. I don’t think so.
- More votes during Covid than in 2024. Not credible.
- Trump allegedly won all the swing states - and the popular vote. Not credible, at all.
- If I understand correctly (could be wrong), a couple of safe red states went blue, but purple swing states went red. Makes no sense.
- Trump allegedly won Pennsylvania, with a very large Puerto Rican population - after a massive insult to Puerto Rico and the Puerto Rican paper towel incident.
- DeJoy is still the postmaster. Hard to forget the trashing of the sorting machines. He seems to found a different way to makes votes disappear this time.
- A number of people are reporting anecdotally that they voted, but there is no record of their votes.
- Even some MAGAts are saying anecdotally that something smells fishy. Hardly proof, but interesting. Most of Trump’s base is mind blowingly stupid and gullible, but they generally view themselves as patriots. It’s hard to see millions of these people voting for a man who has declared that he wants to be a dictator.

More…
- First, we’re talking about Trump, Musk, and Putin - all world class liars and cheaters.
- They told us they were going to cheat. That’s Trump’s little ‘secret’, which he couldn’t help brag about.
- Trump said several times that he didn’t need our votes. Why do you think that is?
- Trump already tried to cheat during the 2020 election with the in-your-face trashing of the post office sorting machines. Plus, of course, his massive disinformation campaign.
- Elon Musk met with Putin before the election. Trump had multiple phone calls with Putin. They weren’t chatting about the weather.
- The voter rolls were aggressively purged before the election.
- Trump incessantly told his base that Democrats were going to steal the election. So the base is primed to accuse us if we investigate the votes.

Of course, Trump is too stupid to steal the election on his own. But he has a whole bunch of smart, if evil, people to help - plus the richest man in the world who has proven he is willing to bribe people for votes. We can’t turn our country over to Russia without a thorough investigation.

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I dont believe this for a second johnnyfins Nov 2024 #1
Apathy... kirby Nov 2024 #7
Agree Dumpy Nov 2024 #10
Counting isn't done yet. Kamala will finish approximately 3 million shy of what Biden got... PeaceWave Nov 2024 #12
And part of that math is losing independents Amishman Nov 2024 #15
I will wait for the final totals johnnyfins Nov 2024 #41
I trust her experience as a lawyer Amishman Nov 2024 #46
I don't either Dem4life1234 Nov 2024 #23
The opposition had a powerful ground game in Western PA with ubiquitous signs. John1956PA Nov 2024 #2
We heard that Harris had a massive ground game and trump had minimal oldmanlynn Nov 2024 #5
I can speak with regard to Western PA, only. John1956PA Nov 2024 #6
Crazy M_o_o_n_dust Nov 2024 #17
The problem La Coliniere Nov 2024 #48
This poster is right kwolf68 Nov 2024 #18
That ad played zillions of times in NC. yardwork Nov 2024 #19
They asked Plouffe about it and he said he wasn't worried Tribetime Nov 2024 #22
How to square this with oldmanlynn Nov 2024 #3
There was no record turnout Zeitghost Nov 2024 #35
Lower turnout was absolutely the case SickOfTheOnePct Nov 2024 #50
Needed to focus on the swing states delisen Nov 2024 #52
Anyone who didn't catch the enthusiasm marybourg Nov 2024 #4
cops and billionaires are not who I want in my tent The Wandering Harper Nov 2024 #8
There you are folks. One of our problems: we need to exclude cops and billionaires from our party. marybourg Nov 2024 #13
word, they shouldn't even exist The Wandering Harper Nov 2024 #64
Trump/Putin didn't even bother to cheat in a way that is believable. Irish_Dem Nov 2024 #9
I'm wondering about the millions of fewer voters.... Chakaconcarne Nov 2024 #11
No evidence for that. Elessar Zappa Nov 2024 #16
Of course they won't admit Dem4life1234 Nov 2024 #25
Hope a great investigative reporter like Greg Palast gets on the case. brush Nov 2024 #33
I'm not sure he's getting on the case -- sure wish he would but... Farmgirl1961 Nov 2024 #42
Georgia. I got vote calls from Maryland delisen Nov 2024 #14
Every time I went past our polling place it was crowded Norbert Nov 2024 #20
You do understand Zeitghost Nov 2024 #38
Could it be that some men were apathetic to a female candidate? groundloop Nov 2024 #21
Hispanic men yes black men no NoRethugFriends Nov 2024 #28
and maybe also apathetic about reproductive rights pstokely Nov 2024 #61
Not Buying It DET Nov 2024 #24
Thank you! Dem4life1234 Nov 2024 #26
Post removed Post removed Nov 2024 #29
Uh huh... DET Nov 2024 #31
I hope bdamomma Nov 2024 #40
+10000 bdamomma Nov 2024 #44
Your post bdamomma Nov 2024 #51
What I Don't Understand... DET Nov 2024 #58
There are racist and sexist Democrats too. Scrivener7 Nov 2024 #27
Oh, please. And you think these so-called racist and sexist Dems voted for trump? brush Nov 2024 #36
No. I think they stayed home. See post 30 in this thread. Scrivener7 Nov 2024 #47
Numbers soandso Nov 2024 #30
Recreating COVID era turnout was always unlikely WarGamer Nov 2024 #32
Other than Republican COVID-era turnout dpibel Nov 2024 #54
should we be encouraging mail by vote? pstokely Nov 2024 #60
for sure!! WarGamer Nov 2024 #62
So there's bdamomma Nov 2024 #34
"By all accounts, Kamala had a great ground game." Jk23 Nov 2024 #37
Agreed Zeitghost Nov 2024 #39
That is so damn puzzling to me. All reports pre-election was record mail--in and record early voting. Jit423 Nov 2024 #43
Yeah but it was for the other guy. Jk23 Nov 2024 #49
Did you forget the sarcasm tag? dpibel Nov 2024 #57
How? Arthur_Frain Nov 2024 #45
I work with a pretty diverse group, and a few of us talked today. thatdemguy Nov 2024 #53
DEADLINE WHITEHOUSE uncovers REAL REASON Why Kamala Lost - Nicole Wallace MSNBC revealing Insights LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2024 #55
I don't disagree with you Colgate 64 Nov 2024 #56
The right track/wrong track polling questions are highly subjective LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2024 #63
How many people were purged ? proud patriot Nov 2024 #59
so all those lines and lines of people Skittles Nov 2024 #65
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