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alarimer

(17,146 posts)
6. Good, yes, but not for for the times, I guess.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 07:46 PM
Nov 2024

Some of the problem was just timing. Biden (in hindsight) should have stepped back a year ago so we could have an actual primary. I don't necessarily think the nomination should ever just be handed to the VP. They almost never win. And not a lot of time to ramp up a campaign in this particular case.

But also, maybe we just need our own carnival barker. Stop being so fucking civilized and get down in the mud. Someone crude and rude of our own. No idea who, really. Just an idle thought. Fettermen? Jesse Ventura? Kidding, mostly.

People wanted change for change's sake, I guess. Chickens voting for Colonel Sanders.

And it is entirely possible that they just don't want what we are trying to sell them. Maybe do something different.

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Kamala Ran A Good Campaign [View all] Baron2024 Nov 2024 OP
Good campaign for 1996 JCMach1 Nov 2024 #1
Come on. 1996? Give credit where it's due. Her campaign was excellent... brush Nov 2024 #2
She'd still be a female whether she run for two years or three months. LisaL Nov 2024 #3
Misogyny is there, but two years instead just three months IMO... brush Nov 2024 #8
Yes! Elessar Zappa Nov 2024 #7
My feeds are completely different the last two days JCMach1 Nov 2024 #10
She would have bankrupted America in 1996 Jk23 Nov 2024 #40
Early on, for sure. But I was cringing at all the Republican outreach at the end. ck4829 Nov 2024 #4
Well, in hindsight BeyondGeography Nov 2024 #5
abortion rights needed to be emphasized. Quiet Em Nov 2024 #34
She underperformed Biden with women BeyondGeography Nov 2024 #50
It's an issue. Quiet Em Nov 2024 #51
"Liz Cheney is not an effective Democratic vote getter." Jk23 Nov 2024 #42
Good, yes, but not for for the times, I guess. alarimer Nov 2024 #6
A campaign that loses is quite obviously a failed campaign. Voltaire2 Nov 2024 #9
She ran the best campaign she could under the circumstances, the problem is that she is not a good candidate. tritsofme Nov 2024 #11
I Disagree Baron2024 Nov 2024 #14
She sure did!! Her campaign Blue_Roses Nov 2024 #12
You're gonna need to define flawless for me Zeitghost Nov 2024 #13
For the short 100 days she had Blue_Roses Nov 2024 #15
I guess Zeitghost Nov 2024 #18
Just stop. Blue_Roses Nov 2024 #20
If only smart people vote for you Jk23 Nov 2024 #60
Broadcast this! newdayneeded Nov 2024 #64
It's basically that old Adley Stevenson quote Jk23 Nov 2024 #67
It's basically that old Adley Stevenson quote Jk23 Nov 2024 #68
What the hell did she do wrong, in your opinion? And what would YOU have done if you were her? CTyankee Nov 2024 #17
She lost Zeitghost Nov 2024 #19
So her campaign design was flawed. What campaign design do you think would have worked better? CTyankee Nov 2024 #21
That's above my pay grade and a conversation to have in the coming days Zeitghost Nov 2024 #22
Trump's message won. That is not Harris's fault. Eoungh people wanted more of him, for whatever reason CTyankee Nov 2024 #24
They came out for Biden Zeitghost Nov 2024 #26
How do we know they came out for Biden? CTyankee Nov 2024 #28
Ummm Zeitghost Nov 2024 #32
Then we are doomed to never have a Democratic woman lead our country and we will be the laughingstock of the other CTyankee Nov 2024 #78
How about we start Zeitghost Nov 2024 #79
Again, who are the "persuadables" that we didn't reach? Please be as specific as possible. CTyankee Nov 2024 #80
Biden narrowly won in 2020 radius777 Nov 2024 #81
No design would have worked better, what we needed was full primaries and a different candidate. tritsofme Nov 2024 #23
Which candidate would have been better in your opinion? CTyankee Nov 2024 #25
I think either Whitmer or Shapiro would have been stronger. tritsofme Nov 2024 #27
What about Whitmer or Shapiro would have been stronger? CTyankee Nov 2024 #29
I think they are stronger candidates. They could have won the sort of Blue Wall states that Harris lost. tritsofme Nov 2024 #35
Who was the candidate with the qualities you would have liked to see get the nomination? CTyankee Nov 2024 #43
I mentioned Whitmer and Shapiro in a previous post. tritsofme Nov 2024 #44
One chosen by the people Zeitghost Nov 2024 #33
Not a single person stepped up to put the work in to win any delegates Quiet Em Nov 2024 #36
And look how that worked out Zeitghost Nov 2024 #37
Harris is the only reason this race was even competitive. Quiet Em Nov 2024 #41
who did you have in mind who would meet your qualifications, was running and had enough support? CTyankee Nov 2024 #45
This is 100% true Zeitghost Nov 2024 #30
Then you can put this on Joe if anyone wants to make that argument ("he shudda known he wasn't up to it"). CTyankee Nov 2024 #38
Unfortunately I think this is the correct take, Biden made the right decision, but it was a year late. tritsofme Nov 2024 #47
I completely disagree. Quiet Em Nov 2024 #39
The problem is after the debate the Republicans whom everyone were ignoring.... Jk23 Nov 2024 #57
I'm not rewriting history Quiet Em Nov 2024 #58
I watched the debate Jk23 Nov 2024 #59
I didn't say that people should ignore what they saw. Quiet Em Nov 2024 #62
I'm actually not saying that he does Jk23 Nov 2024 #65
Yeah, Trump is not sharp and not mentally well enough for the position of President Quiet Em Nov 2024 #69
have serious doubts he'll make it the 4 years Jk23 Nov 2024 #73
She was way to timid and had no real identity. Jk23 Nov 2024 #46
Did you miss all those times she talked about being a prosecutor and the bad people she prosecuted? No? Well, I didn't CTyankee Nov 2024 #52
She danced with sorority sisters during the campaign? Are you kidding? Doodley Nov 2024 #53
I can't recommend this post effectively. Arthur_Frain Nov 2024 #16
It does seem like her numbers began to drop when she said she wouldn't change anything Biden did Quixote1818 Nov 2024 #31
OK, let's work that one. If she HAD distanced herself from Joe, there would have been a huge reaction from other Dems. CTyankee Nov 2024 #48
Biden John2028 Nov 2024 #49
Kamala actually outperformed what she should have achieved based on polling on Biden and the economy LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2024 #54
I think Kamala Harris was an excellent choice as was Tim Walz. But I disagree that an Nanjeanne Nov 2024 #55
" Swing voters are not moving R to D" In It to Win It Nov 2024 #75
Back in 2016 Schumer said (I paraphrase) for every left blue voter we lose in PA we win 2 Republican/Independents Nanjeanne Nov 2024 #76
DEADLINE WHITEHOUSE uncovers REAL REASON Why Kamala Lost - Nicole Wallace MSNBC revealing Insights LetMyPeopleVote Nov 2024 #56
Do you Rebl2 Nov 2024 #61
It's very doubtful she would have won the nomination of that was the case Jk23 Nov 2024 #63
Unfortunately Rebl2 Nov 2024 #66
You have no basis then Quiet Em Nov 2024 #70
I mean it was a fairly competitive process up until South Carolina Jk23 Nov 2024 #72
It really wasn't competitive Quiet Em Nov 2024 #74
She ran a great campaign mcar Nov 2024 #71
I agree with almost everything you say. There is ONE thing I wish they had done differently. Ferrets are Cool Nov 2024 #77
I like the way you are thinking on this. Why do you think we didn't do it? CTyankee Nov 2024 #82
We are always too nice Ferrets are Cool Nov 2024 #83
Sadly, that is the case when we are dealing with this monstrous person. CTyankee Nov 2024 #84
It's a cult and they are under a spell anglesphere Nov 2024 #85
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