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HereForTheParty

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27. Even if a new law prevents Trump from leaving NATO
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 10:29 PM
Nov 2024

he still wouldn't be obligated to provide military assistance should a member be attacked. He should, and we're capable of it, but he wouldn't be obligated to do so under Article 5.

What are a NATO member’s collective defense obligations?
Article 5 of the North Atlantic Treaty states:

The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them . . . shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking . . . such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area.

This language is relatively flexible. It permits each NATO member to decide for itself what action should be taken to address an armed attack on a NATO ally. It does not require any member to respond with military force, although it permits such responses as a matter of international law. A member may decide that instead of responding with force, it will send military equipment to NATO allies or impose sanctions on the aggressor.


https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/natos-article-5-collective-defense-obligations-explained

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What?.............. Lovie777 Nov 2024 #1
good point!! WarGamer Nov 2024 #2
Has this passed? wryter2000 Nov 2024 #3
Ukraine Will Be Decimated And/Or Under Russia Control By The End Of 2025 nt SoCalDavidS Nov 2024 #6
EU will kick in. They have to. It's on their doorstep. paleotn Nov 2024 #23
I know wryter2000 Nov 2024 #30
Yes, it passed 12/16/2023 crimycarny Nov 2024 #8
Did it pass both House, and Biden signed it? Sogo Nov 2024 #16
Part of the 2024 national defense authorization act. Signed by Biden in 2023. paleotn Nov 2024 #24
Yes it passed both houses and President Biden signed it. I worry that with a trifecta they will repeal it PortTack Nov 2024 #25
SC ruled Trump does not have to follow the law while in office. Irish_Dem Nov 2024 #4
They'll Fix That, Don't Worry SoCalDavidS Nov 2024 #5
Knr UTUSN Nov 2024 #7
There is already talk of little Marco johnnyfins Nov 2024 #9
Hell just keepthemhonestO Nov 2024 #10
Maybe crimycarny Nov 2024 #11
NATO doesn't require we take any military action HereForTheParty Nov 2024 #12
But there is strength in numbers crimycarny Nov 2024 #14
I agree with all of that HereForTheParty Nov 2024 #15
Ah, got it crimycarny Nov 2024 #18
What are you talking about? We have at least 143 military bases in Europe. Why wouldn't we "take any military action." ancianita Nov 2024 #19
Even if a new law prevents Trump from leaving NATO HereForTheParty Nov 2024 #27
I see. Okay. The loophole. Man, the next four years are going to be moment-to-moment ancianita Nov 2024 #28
However, SCOTUS says he can break any law he likes. Grumpy Old Guy Nov 2024 #13
Google AI is getting pretty helpful these days. ancianita Nov 2024 #17
Some good news - thanks for posting. n/t iluvtennis Nov 2024 #20
Good point John2028 Nov 2024 #21
Thinking ahead. Taking precautions. Very smart. Martin68 Nov 2024 #22
Funny krkaufman Nov 2024 #26
Only because it's in their own best interests crimycarny Nov 2024 #31
Good Figarosmom Nov 2024 #29
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