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kerouac2

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60. Dems like Biden are the only ones who

Fri Nov 8, 2024, 12:00 AM

Nov 2024

Actually have done things for these people. Everything from health care, to worker rights, to education for their kids, to financial help, to eliminating student loan debt and funding police, infrastructure, schools, and so much more. Apparently it's not about what is done for them, it is them realizing who actually works to make their lives better. It sure ain't trump or the gop, ever.

Our messaging clearly needs work but folks have to care enough to learn.

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I have lifelong friends who voted for Trump. They don't pay much attention to politics [View all] Quixote1818 Nov 2024 OP

Yep happybird Nov 2024 #1

It's a habit, a reflex. They vote Republican like the hamster hits the pedal for food. surfered Nov 2024 #2

One can same the same for child molesters, women beaters, and rapists TheKentuckian Nov 2024 #72

There are millions of people like that out there. TwilightZone Nov 2024 #3

Well said KnoxVol Nov 2024 #8

One of my best friends insists that "government" is the problem. TwilightZone Nov 2024 #14

That goes all the way back to Raygun. Ferrets are Cool Nov 2024 #76

Yep. TwilightZone Nov 2024 #87

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The intellectually curious and/or engaged are a dying breed Native Nov 2024 #83

It all spends exactly the same for me. TheKentuckian Nov 2024 #65

Some people blame politics for their personal problems. walkingman Nov 2024 #4

Joe Biden didn't make my wife come back. rubbersole Nov 2024 #42

When I was growing up, one thing I heard people say Mike 03 Nov 2024 #5

My best friend is a doctor in Michigan Ontheboundry Nov 2024 #6

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Our vision apparently isn't reality Ontheboundry Nov 2024 #63

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I live in the county that borders mtg Ontheboundry Nov 2024 #66

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Not yet...lol Ontheboundry Nov 2024 #71

Correction Ontheboundry Nov 2024 #73

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I can get on board with this Ontheboundry Nov 2024 #82

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Joe rogan Ontheboundry Nov 2024 #86

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I think we missed the boat in 2016. Ontheboundry Nov 2024 #89

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MTG isn't in Congress to legislate. Dulcinea Nov 2024 #99

This is the problem and I don't know the solution. yardwork Nov 2024 #7

As I said above. We should play that game to a point. That is where politics are right now. Quixote1818 Nov 2024 #12

Good point RJ_MacReady Nov 2024 #48

Every time they complain about something over the next 5 years which is RockRaven Nov 2024 #9

that's my plan proud patriot Nov 2024 #61

A "low information voter" Zorro Nov 2024 #10

There's a problem with this, though. orange jar Nov 2024 #16

Then they're just stupid if they can't discriminate between rhetoric and reality Zorro Nov 2024 #20

Calling voters stupid isn't at the top of my list of things we should do to attract them to our side. onenote Nov 2024 #67

I call 'em as I see 'em Zorro Nov 2024 #93

A constant stream of excuses and handwaiving doesn't solve a damn thing either TheKentuckian Nov 2024 #70

They think FOX news moonscape Nov 2024 #97

Funny, I don't have any life long friends that voted for trump. Conjuay Nov 2024 #11

Believe me, it has been difficult. I grew up with him. He was there when my brother was killed. Quixote1818 Nov 2024 #17

I'll give him one thing. It won't be slow... lame54 Nov 2024 #13

I have ended friendships over Bettie Nov 2024 #15

My brother from Texas (PhD) told me "Biden said all Republicans are trash" crimycarny Nov 2024 #18

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They will never see a dollar of Social Security Prairie Gates Nov 2024 #19

We need to let them experience this JI7 Nov 2024 #21

If it were me... tgraf66 Nov 2024 #22

I have friends and family just like yours . . . AverageOldGuy Nov 2024 #23

We are of the same mind. paleotn Nov 2024 #28

Amen! Dem2theMax Nov 2024 #45

Until shit really hits people hard, they won't pay attention. mymomwasright Nov 2024 #24

And when it does hit them quakerboy Nov 2024 #33

Mainly not themselves for sure and probably not the perps either TheKentuckian Nov 2024 #75

I don't get how anyone could expect he would suddenly be able to get anything done DeeDeeNY Nov 2024 #25

Either they're dumb as stumps or hate the same people he does... paleotn Nov 2024 #27

It's all about power BeneteauBum Nov 2024 #30

I think that is where it may have actually worked in his favor that we were pointing out he would not be constrained Quixote1818 Nov 2024 #31

He was President quakerboy Nov 2024 #36

Morons. Fuck them. paleotn Nov 2024 #26

But they ARE bad people. NameAlreadyTaken Nov 2024 #29

I've said it many times; lumping them all into one category is a big mistake. oldsoftie Nov 2024 #32

He is a serial rapist. Even if he were an economic wizard. onecaliberal Nov 2024 #38

burden of proof is on you cadoman Nov 2024 #74

The ones they care for of course...they are merely confused or something...they are great TheKentuckian Nov 2024 #78

This is why we lose elections. NOT wanting to examine real issues. oldsoftie Nov 2024 #92

I have not blamed a solitary soul for a damn thing THEY DIDN'T DO. TheKentuckian Nov 2024 #95

The people I know are the only examples I know. Its not that hard. oldsoftie Nov 2024 #91

He did virtually nothing for them his first 4 years William Seger Nov 2024 #34

Some things never change. The Roman poet Juvenal nailed it. colorado_ufo Nov 2024 #35

He is known and his chaos is known around the globe. onecaliberal Nov 2024 #37

I would guess the prevailing feeling with these folks is "meh, that's never gonna happen to me." calimary Nov 2024 #39

They are irresponsible, lazy and selfish. Irish_Dem Nov 2024 #40

Republicans blocked anything and everything Democrats tried to enact, even their own bills. jaxexpat Nov 2024 #41

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Sorry Zorro Nov 2024 #57

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His voters listen to what he says and take him at his 'word.' Dem2theMax Nov 2024 #44

that's what frustrates me the most! They literally cite trump's own talking points as if they are fact. ecstatic Nov 2024 #52

The dumbest people support him Dem4life1234 Nov 2024 #46

They won't and their friends and family will still make excuses for them. TheKentuckian Nov 2024 #80

Well DemonGoddess Nov 2024 #47

Democrats are turned off by clowns ecstatic Nov 2024 #50

Well said Iris Nov 2024 #51

They wouldn't be my friends for long, I can't stand to be around stupid people. nt yaesu Nov 2024 #53

Sounds like they're going to get the government they deserve. nt A Clearing Nov 2024 #54

stupid won. pansypoo53219 Nov 2024 #55

Do something for them? Freethinker65 Nov 2024 #56

Dems like Biden are the only ones who kerouac2 Nov 2024 #60

Excitement and hope of big change tends to win over stay-the-course except during economic booms andym Nov 2024 #62

+1 onenote Nov 2024 #68

Yep surrounded by them... MiHale Nov 2024 #79

I have been asking myself, since before the election Alice B. Nov 2024 #85

Those friends will pay attention after the next four years. republianmushroom Nov 2024 #94

I do not disagree with them on that point Ruby the Liberal Nov 2024 #96

Yes. I'm convinced that trivializing government has played a big roll in the election of a clown. LAS14 Nov 2024 #98