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oldsoftie

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92. This is why we lose elections. NOT wanting to examine real issues.

Reply to TheKentuckian (Reply #78)

Fri Nov 8, 2024, 11:20 AM

Nov 2024

Just blanket-blaming.

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I have lifelong friends who voted for Trump. They don't pay much attention to politics [View all] Quixote1818 Nov 2024 OP

Yep happybird Nov 2024 #1

It's a habit, a reflex. They vote Republican like the hamster hits the pedal for food. surfered Nov 2024 #2

One can same the same for child molesters, women beaters, and rapists TheKentuckian Nov 2024 #72

There are millions of people like that out there. TwilightZone Nov 2024 #3

Well said KnoxVol Nov 2024 #8

One of my best friends insists that "government" is the problem. TwilightZone Nov 2024 #14

That goes all the way back to Raygun. Ferrets are Cool Nov 2024 #76

Yep. TwilightZone Nov 2024 #87

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The intellectually curious and/or engaged are a dying breed Native Nov 2024 #83

It all spends exactly the same for me. TheKentuckian Nov 2024 #65

Some people blame politics for their personal problems. walkingman Nov 2024 #4

Joe Biden didn't make my wife come back. rubbersole Nov 2024 #42

When I was growing up, one thing I heard people say Mike 03 Nov 2024 #5

My best friend is a doctor in Michigan Ontheboundry Nov 2024 #6

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Our vision apparently isn't reality Ontheboundry Nov 2024 #63

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I live in the county that borders mtg Ontheboundry Nov 2024 #66

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Not yet...lol Ontheboundry Nov 2024 #71

Correction Ontheboundry Nov 2024 #73

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I can get on board with this Ontheboundry Nov 2024 #82

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Joe rogan Ontheboundry Nov 2024 #86

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I think we missed the boat in 2016. Ontheboundry Nov 2024 #89

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MTG isn't in Congress to legislate. Dulcinea Nov 2024 #99

This is the problem and I don't know the solution. yardwork Nov 2024 #7

As I said above. We should play that game to a point. That is where politics are right now. Quixote1818 Nov 2024 #12

Good point RJ_MacReady Nov 2024 #48

Every time they complain about something over the next 5 years which is RockRaven Nov 2024 #9

that's my plan proud patriot Nov 2024 #61

A "low information voter" Zorro Nov 2024 #10

There's a problem with this, though. orange jar Nov 2024 #16

Then they're just stupid if they can't discriminate between rhetoric and reality Zorro Nov 2024 #20

Calling voters stupid isn't at the top of my list of things we should do to attract them to our side. onenote Nov 2024 #67

I call 'em as I see 'em Zorro Nov 2024 #93

A constant stream of excuses and handwaiving doesn't solve a damn thing either TheKentuckian Nov 2024 #70

They think FOX news moonscape Nov 2024 #97

Funny, I don't have any life long friends that voted for trump. Conjuay Nov 2024 #11

Believe me, it has been difficult. I grew up with him. He was there when my brother was killed. Quixote1818 Nov 2024 #17

I'll give him one thing. It won't be slow... lame54 Nov 2024 #13

I have ended friendships over Bettie Nov 2024 #15

My brother from Texas (PhD) told me "Biden said all Republicans are trash" crimycarny Nov 2024 #18

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They will never see a dollar of Social Security Prairie Gates Nov 2024 #19

We need to let them experience this JI7 Nov 2024 #21

If it were me... tgraf66 Nov 2024 #22

I have friends and family just like yours . . . AverageOldGuy Nov 2024 #23

We are of the same mind. paleotn Nov 2024 #28

Amen! Dem2theMax Nov 2024 #45

Until shit really hits people hard, they won't pay attention. mymomwasright Nov 2024 #24

And when it does hit them quakerboy Nov 2024 #33

Mainly not themselves for sure and probably not the perps either TheKentuckian Nov 2024 #75

I don't get how anyone could expect he would suddenly be able to get anything done DeeDeeNY Nov 2024 #25

Either they're dumb as stumps or hate the same people he does... paleotn Nov 2024 #27

It's all about power BeneteauBum Nov 2024 #30

I think that is where it may have actually worked in his favor that we were pointing out he would not be constrained Quixote1818 Nov 2024 #31

He was President quakerboy Nov 2024 #36

Morons. Fuck them. paleotn Nov 2024 #26

But they ARE bad people. NameAlreadyTaken Nov 2024 #29

I've said it many times; lumping them all into one category is a big mistake. oldsoftie Nov 2024 #32

He is a serial rapist. Even if he were an economic wizard. onecaliberal Nov 2024 #38

burden of proof is on you cadoman Nov 2024 #74

The ones they care for of course...they are merely confused or something...they are great TheKentuckian Nov 2024 #78

This is why we lose elections. NOT wanting to examine real issues. oldsoftie Nov 2024 #92

I have not blamed a solitary soul for a damn thing THEY DIDN'T DO. TheKentuckian Nov 2024 #95

The people I know are the only examples I know. Its not that hard. oldsoftie Nov 2024 #91

He did virtually nothing for them his first 4 years William Seger Nov 2024 #34

Some things never change. The Roman poet Juvenal nailed it. colorado_ufo Nov 2024 #35

He is known and his chaos is known around the globe. onecaliberal Nov 2024 #37

I would guess the prevailing feeling with these folks is "meh, that's never gonna happen to me." calimary Nov 2024 #39

They are irresponsible, lazy and selfish. Irish_Dem Nov 2024 #40

Republicans blocked anything and everything Democrats tried to enact, even their own bills. jaxexpat Nov 2024 #41

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Sorry Zorro Nov 2024 #57

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His voters listen to what he says and take him at his 'word.' Dem2theMax Nov 2024 #44

that's what frustrates me the most! They literally cite trump's own talking points as if they are fact. ecstatic Nov 2024 #52

The dumbest people support him Dem4life1234 Nov 2024 #46

They won't and their friends and family will still make excuses for them. TheKentuckian Nov 2024 #80

Well DemonGoddess Nov 2024 #47

Democrats are turned off by clowns ecstatic Nov 2024 #50

Well said Iris Nov 2024 #51

They wouldn't be my friends for long, I can't stand to be around stupid people. nt yaesu Nov 2024 #53

Sounds like they're going to get the government they deserve. nt A Clearing Nov 2024 #54

stupid won. pansypoo53219 Nov 2024 #55

Do something for them? Freethinker65 Nov 2024 #56

Dems like Biden are the only ones who kerouac2 Nov 2024 #60

Excitement and hope of big change tends to win over stay-the-course except during economic booms andym Nov 2024 #62

+1 onenote Nov 2024 #68

Yep surrounded by them... MiHale Nov 2024 #79

I have been asking myself, since before the election Alice B. Nov 2024 #85

Those friends will pay attention after the next four years. republianmushroom Nov 2024 #94

I do not disagree with them on that point Ruby the Liberal Nov 2024 #96

Yes. I'm convinced that trivializing government has played a big roll in the election of a clown. LAS14 Nov 2024 #98