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Elessar Zappa

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1. We don't need everyone in college.

Fri Nov 8, 2024, 06:18 PM

Nov 2024

But we do need a solid primary and secondary education system. One thing that should be taught again is civics. Also, an internet class should be added to teach kids to discern bullshit from the truth on the internet and social media.

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But what about the people who dig ditches? [View all] LAS14 Nov 2024 OP

We don't need everyone in college. Elessar Zappa Nov 2024 #1

I couldn't agree more with everything you said. LAS14 Nov 2024 #4

I have a pretty good IQ and a college degree but I did manual labor for a couple of summers... wcmagumba Nov 2024 #2

I have a college degree and a professional job Ex Lurker Nov 2024 #24

Tell us how you would feel about the work after 30 years of it dhol82 Nov 2024 #29

I worked construction from 1974 2017. k55f5r Nov 2024 #32

One thing, putting the artificial qualification of needing a college education was designed to put certain positions of Jit423 Nov 2024 #3

This is a prime example. LAS14 Nov 2024 #6

Isn't it equally condescending to say we should molly-coddle people who are deliberately close-minded? meadowlander Nov 2024 #8

People's brains are different. We should respect that. nt LAS14 Nov 2024 #11

Of course, but that's separate to the issue of values. meadowlander Nov 2024 #15

With values like this, we'll never win over those people who feel scorned by the "intellectual elite." LAS14 Nov 2024 #16

We'll have to agree to disagree then. meadowlander Nov 2024 #20

Not only that soandso Nov 2024 #19

There are many reasons why someone may not want to get a higher education. orange jar Nov 2024 #17

To be clear, I'm not talking about formal education meadowlander Nov 2024 #26

I concur misanthrope Nov 2024 #30

But what should our party's attitude be toward people are just not curious about the world? nt LAS14 Nov 2024 #36

I was a waitress, bartender and hostess Lifeafter70 Nov 2024 #34

Unfortunately, most Americans view the arts as a frivolity misanthrope Nov 2024 #27

Bread and roses, bread and roses meadowlander Nov 2024 #37

The notion that we must "do for" this or that group irks me... pat_k Nov 2024 #5

For me it's a problem of values. meadowlander Nov 2024 #7

How does this sound to someone who has no interest in education as a value in itself? LAS14 Nov 2024 #12

Without education, there is no society. meadowlander Nov 2024 #18

As far as the "career politician" misanthrope Nov 2024 #39

There are lots of students who are average... Ysabel Nov 2024 #9

Thanks! This deserves repeating. LAS14 Nov 2024 #13

The first time I made $100 in a day was moving furniture. hunter Nov 2024 #10

Yes!! I think paying more for our hamburgers is an excellent way... LAS14 Nov 2024 #14

Back in 1959, H2O Man Nov 2024 #21

Yeah, that's a problem we should address in some way other than "learn to code." nt LAS14 Nov 2024 #22

I find this somewhat condescending. harumph Nov 2024 #23

The assumption is NOT that "tradesmen" aren't as smart. LAS14 Nov 2024 #25

Well, some are "smart" enough to know that they harumph Nov 2024 #28

My OP wasn't intended to be about the value (or lack of it) of college. It was about... LAS14 Nov 2024 #31

I'm a retired Navy Chief/self taught Systems Engineer. haele Nov 2024 #38

The biggest problem is some people truly believe that they have dominance over others and the earth. Clouds Passing Nov 2024 #33

Welding! Lulu KC Nov 2024 #35

My mom's parents were welders. hunter Nov 2024 #40

No Arthur_Frain Nov 2024 #41