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Arthur_Frain

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Reply to LAS14 (Original post)

Sat Nov 9, 2024, 01:04 AM

Nov 2024

This is a wonderful post, and you’ve hit the nail on the head squarely. Now. How do we fix it?

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But what about the people who dig ditches? [View all] LAS14 Nov 2024 OP

We don't need everyone in college. Elessar Zappa Nov 2024 #1

I couldn't agree more with everything you said. LAS14 Nov 2024 #4

I have a pretty good IQ and a college degree but I did manual labor for a couple of summers... wcmagumba Nov 2024 #2

I have a college degree and a professional job Ex Lurker Nov 2024 #24

Tell us how you would feel about the work after 30 years of it dhol82 Nov 2024 #29

I worked construction from 1974 2017. k55f5r Nov 2024 #32

One thing, putting the artificial qualification of needing a college education was designed to put certain positions of Jit423 Nov 2024 #3

This is a prime example. LAS14 Nov 2024 #6

Isn't it equally condescending to say we should molly-coddle people who are deliberately close-minded? meadowlander Nov 2024 #8

People's brains are different. We should respect that. nt LAS14 Nov 2024 #11

Of course, but that's separate to the issue of values. meadowlander Nov 2024 #15

With values like this, we'll never win over those people who feel scorned by the "intellectual elite." LAS14 Nov 2024 #16

We'll have to agree to disagree then. meadowlander Nov 2024 #20

Not only that soandso Nov 2024 #19

There are many reasons why someone may not want to get a higher education. orange jar Nov 2024 #17

To be clear, I'm not talking about formal education meadowlander Nov 2024 #26

I concur misanthrope Nov 2024 #30

But what should our party's attitude be toward people are just not curious about the world? nt LAS14 Nov 2024 #36

I was a waitress, bartender and hostess Lifeafter70 Nov 2024 #34

Unfortunately, most Americans view the arts as a frivolity misanthrope Nov 2024 #27

Bread and roses, bread and roses meadowlander Nov 2024 #37

The notion that we must "do for" this or that group irks me... pat_k Nov 2024 #5

For me it's a problem of values. meadowlander Nov 2024 #7

How does this sound to someone who has no interest in education as a value in itself? LAS14 Nov 2024 #12

Without education, there is no society. meadowlander Nov 2024 #18

As far as the "career politician" misanthrope Nov 2024 #39

There are lots of students who are average... Ysabel Nov 2024 #9

Thanks! This deserves repeating. LAS14 Nov 2024 #13

The first time I made $100 in a day was moving furniture. hunter Nov 2024 #10

Yes!! I think paying more for our hamburgers is an excellent way... LAS14 Nov 2024 #14

Back in 1959, H2O Man Nov 2024 #21

Yeah, that's a problem we should address in some way other than "learn to code." nt LAS14 Nov 2024 #22

I find this somewhat condescending. harumph Nov 2024 #23

The assumption is NOT that "tradesmen" aren't as smart. LAS14 Nov 2024 #25

Well, some are "smart" enough to know that they harumph Nov 2024 #28

My OP wasn't intended to be about the value (or lack of it) of college. It was about... LAS14 Nov 2024 #31

I'm a retired Navy Chief/self taught Systems Engineer. haele Nov 2024 #38

The biggest problem is some people truly believe that they have dominance over others and the earth. Clouds Passing Nov 2024 #33

Welding! Lulu KC Nov 2024 #35

My mom's parents were welders. hunter Nov 2024 #40

No Arthur_Frain Nov 2024 #41