General Discussion

ananda

(34,292 posts)

24. I think this is more about perception than policy.

Sat Nov 9, 2024, 08:35 AM

Nov 2024

The fact is that crime is actually up in red states
and down in blue states.

The propaganda on crime and safety is what drives
vulnerable pops to feel unsafe.

The truth is that Republicans are the ones to fear
when it comes to safety... on every level.

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

1 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

Dem4life1234

65 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

In case people missed it - California shifted to the right as well [View all] Sympthsical Nov 2024 OP

I totally understand what you are saying. jimfields33 Nov 2024 #1

I'm still watching those races as well Sympthsical Nov 2024 #2

It's definitely difficult to look in the mirror. jimfields33 Nov 2024 #3

Amen Sympthsical Nov 2024 #10

Dems realized they needed to pull back. Newsome realized that program to help undocs buy a house Demovictory9 Nov 2024 #12

Bill Maher, who we detest, said last night something like, "Who had the idea to lock up everything in a drug store. Silent Type Nov 2024 #54

yeah, I'm mostly scared of right wing white men... Ysabel Nov 2024 #57

I mean it wasn't that long ago California voted for Republican Statewide Jk23 Nov 2024 #39

Post removed Post removed Nov 2024 #4

And when you bring up punishing these thugs people will reply JI7 Nov 2024 #7

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2024 #8

We should be tough on crime, illegal immigration, and concern those shitty "protests" JI7 Nov 2024 #5

Honest question phoenix_rising Nov 2024 #25

And the thing is our national candidates usually don't even support JI7 Nov 2024 #6

Harris was actually asked about Prop 36 Sympthsical Nov 2024 #9

I know most of the complaints from black men JI7 Nov 2024 #13

Not surprised by the results..the shoplifting surge and the street takovers Demovictory9 Nov 2024 #11

I live just up 80 from Vallejo Sympthsical Nov 2024 #14

Street takeovers were formerly concentrated in certain areas but this was a few miles from me Demovictory9 Nov 2024 #16

And we are watching in the rest of the country exboyfil Nov 2024 #15

Shift to the right or shift to the center. bottomofthehill Nov 2024 #17

+1 oasis Nov 2024 #18

Point taken Sympthsical Nov 2024 #19

A guy scooped up merchandise and walked out of california store in front of a journalist Demovictory9 Nov 2024 #20

I've told this story before Sympthsical Nov 2024 #22

At a store near me, the middle class people watched someone walk out with a full basket and wondered.. Demovictory9 Nov 2024 #31

Not only why are we paying but bottomofthehill Nov 2024 #58

Devoting 20% of your media to 0.5% to 1% of the population... joshcryer Nov 2024 #43

Don't worry the front page is filled with Jk23 Nov 2024 #61

So parsing this thread out, people voted for Trump because they did not feel safe. ananda Nov 2024 #21

It's basic hierarchy of needs Sympthsical Nov 2024 #23

I think this is more about perception than policy. ananda Nov 2024 #24

I think more granularity is required when thinking about the issue Sympthsical Nov 2024 #29

its not just propaganda or perception...there is visible crime NNguyenMD Nov 2024 #46

I don't disagree, but perhaps narrow perceptions regarding safety... ananda Nov 2024 #26

Human nature isn't a secret Sympthsical Nov 2024 #30

Well, Republicans know how to target fear... ananda Nov 2024 #40

When stores leave a city in great numbers due to out right theft as has happened in the San Francisco area, jimfields33 Nov 2024 #36

No issue there, never was on my part. ananda Nov 2024 #38

Being soft on crime is a horrible policy decision Jk23 Nov 2024 #42

People are sick and tired of tone-deaf politicians who refuse to do their jobs dalton99a Nov 2024 #27

I think the progressive measures on crime were instituted too quickly underpants Nov 2024 #28

Agreed Sympthsical Nov 2024 #34

Good local info. Thanks. underpants Nov 2024 #41

"More to the right or left" is silly -misanthroptimist Nov 2024 #32

You are absolutely correct Sympthsical Nov 2024 #33

I've seen people saying Harris moved too much to the center mcar Nov 2024 #35

I think voters are more a la carte' than surmised Sympthsical Nov 2024 #37

I think you are correct, however, mcar Nov 2024 #47

Even so, this stuff is baked in Sympthsical Nov 2024 #49

Imagining a cat mowing the lawn... mcar Nov 2024 #50

But that's part of the problem people don't actually watch cable news Jk23 Nov 2024 #62

My 27 YO son has said many times mcar Nov 2024 #65

Democrats RJ_MacReady Nov 2024 #44

Those propositions and races are not indicative that California is turning red. The blatant smash and rob crimes, etc. JohnSJ Nov 2024 #45

I'm not saying we're turning red Sympthsical Nov 2024 #52

I think the issue is really a Biden problem Buckeyeblue Nov 2024 #48

I absolutely disagree on the last part about Kamala Dem4life1234 Nov 2024 #56

Did it or did Democrats stay home more than Republicans because Harris was courting Republicans? nt Quixote1818 Nov 2024 #51

Nice to know crime is becoming unpopular, if your creds aren't a 10 year crime spree. bucolic_frolic Nov 2024 #53

The image of progressives have certainly been smeared in the last four years DSandra Nov 2024 #55

Homeowners are majority in this country Jk23 Nov 2024 #64

So what about Proporition 6? DBoon Nov 2024 #59

Constantly lecturing people on one's own side under the guise of self-criticism Prairie Gates Nov 2024 #60

So did Maryland alarimer Nov 2024 #63