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ProSense

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31. Stop

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 12:32 AM

Dec 2012

"That said, the gOP is giving 1.2 trillion in tax increases at most. That leaves most of the other stuff to come from sending cuts. The only place to cut is entitlements and Defense, really."

...negotiating with your fantasy and deal with the facts:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021969595

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President Obama is a Republican from the 1930s to 1960s [View all] BrentWil Dec 2012 OP

President Obama is an American-born Democrat ProSense Dec 2012 #1

Someone is on a roll. And I think we should not spoil his fun! sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #3

I agree... The point is, the political spectrum has shifted... BrentWil Dec 2012 #4

This is getting rather entertaining..... marmar Dec 2012 #2

. RomneyLies Dec 2012 #5

I guess if he had been alive then, he probably would have been a Republican democrattotheend Dec 2012 #6

Well it is difficult to talk about this thread with anything but economic issues... BrentWil Dec 2012 #7

If he were alive he probably wouldn't have been able to vote. frazzled Dec 2012 #43

I don't alert nadinbrzezinski Dec 2012 #8

Well, I know for a fact that Mr. Obama is... TheProgressive Dec 2012 #9

I would say in 2012 he is BrentWil Dec 2012 #10

I reserve the 2013 and forward judgement... TheProgressive Dec 2012 #12

Honestly... BrentWil Dec 2012 #15

What is the grand bargain as you see it? TheProgressive Dec 2012 #16

Around 4 trillion of tax increases and spending cuts. BrentWil Dec 2012 #21

"I think Medicare and SS are on the table." ProSense Dec 2012 #24

Sorry... Posting on my cell... BrentWil Dec 2012 #29

Stop ProSense Dec 2012 #31

"stop negotiating with your fantasy and deal with the facts"... TheProgressive Dec 2012 #33

Obama has said SS is not on the table. And the only changes to Medicare... TheProgressive Dec 2012 #25

Well, we will see. NT BrentWil Dec 2012 #26

That doesn't make sense. Do you know anything about the Grand Bargain? sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #17

He's definitely a liberal, but not progressive. Which is fine. He never claimed to be.nt Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #14

I respect you opinion... TheProgressive Dec 2012 #19

Since you are progressive, you may view things from a far left perspective. Honeycombe8 Dec 2012 #60

He is in 2012... BrentWil Dec 2012 #48

And I know for a fact that he is. NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #52

false center JEFF9K Dec 2012 #11

The political spectrum is relative to the society you are in... BrentWil Dec 2012 #13

Really what do have against Norway? sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #18

Nothing... Would like to visit. BrentWil Dec 2012 #23

"I am a right winger in Norway." ProSense Dec 2012 #20

Norway isn't a bad place to live. NT BrentWil Dec 2012 #22

Is it a "right wingers" paradise? ProSense Dec 2012 #27

Speaking of Norway allrevvedup Dec 2012 #35

Honestly, I think you're pretty far right even for American standards... Democracyinkind Dec 2012 #56

He is probably to the right of Ike n/t doc03 Dec 2012 #28

Ike was willing to cut defense and spent a lot on infrastructure NT BrentWil Dec 2012 #30

Exactly n/t doc03 Dec 2012 #32

Yoo hoo: ProSense Dec 2012 #36

Ike flattened Korea allrevvedup Dec 2012 #34

North Korea invaded the South under Truman... BrentWil Dec 2012 #37

He did much more than that. allrevvedup Dec 2012 #38

Modern industrial war is bad... Like to see pictures of kids killed in drown attacks today? NT BrentWil Dec 2012 #39

There's no comparison. allrevvedup Dec 2012 #40

I think the use of drones to kill are cruel, cowardly, and totally disgusting.... TheProgressive Dec 2012 #42

The Korean war ended 6 months after Ike took office, I think doc03 Dec 2012 #41

Ike won on Nov. 4, 1952, allrevvedup Dec 2012 #44

Not really Spider Jerusalem Dec 2012 #45

The statement, while true, doesn't tell us very much. pnwmom Dec 2012 #46

Sort of... BrentWil Dec 2012 #47

"George Wallace, D" ProSense Dec 2012 #49

Hoover (29-33): Great Depression. Ike (1953-61): Cold war, Nixon, blackist, Indochina, MIC. allrevvedup Dec 2012 #50

Really? I do not know any Democrat or republican from the 30's who would support gay rights for one still_one Dec 2012 #51

Nope. He's a progressive Democrat from the 2000s. NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #53

effective presidents need to react to the situation. what would fdr do in today's environment? unblock Dec 2012 #54

Something about jumping... oh... and sharks Democracyinkind Dec 2012 #55

Things do shift BrentWil Dec 2012 #57

No. republicans were high-tariff, low-immigration isolationists from 1921 to 1981. That's not Obama. pampango Dec 2012 #58

Agree. He's about where the crazy right winger Barry Goldwater was upi402 Dec 2012 #59