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111. Zactly. We differ on which we believe is the worst though...

Thu Dec 13, 2012, 02:09 AM

Dec 2012

I haven't encountered in my life, either in person or through the media, a politician I'd piss on if they were on fire. That's how little respect I have for ALL politicians. I can honestly say I can't remember voting FOR someone rather than either voting against someone or for the lesser of x number of evils. I think EGO is what drives people to politics.

I have however met atheists, agnostics, and those who profess one religion or another that I thought were completely honorable, compassionate, and/or filled with empathy. Other side of the coin: I've met people from the aforementioned three groups whose burning bodies I wouldn't waste my urine on.

Bottom line for me: I think you'd find more honest people in a discussion of religion/atheism/agnosticism than you would a discussion with politicians.

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Holiday message: Atheists dub Jesus a 'myth' on Times Square billboard [View all] DaniDubois Dec 2012 OP

Here's one of the best things I saw on Facebook: Zoeisright Dec 2012 #1

That sums up nicely... agtcovert Dec 2012 #2

Come on, it all makes perfect sense Arugula Latte Dec 2012 #3

I was religious when I was younger marlakay Dec 2012 #68

hrmm... nobadeeftw Dec 2012 #327

Zombie. DireStrike Dec 2012 #4

Technically, he's a lich pokerfan Dec 2012 #40

Very educational! DireStrike Dec 2012 #45

Thanks to xchrom! pokerfan Dec 2012 #58

Bloody brilliant n/t white_wolf Dec 2012 #71

Someone that understands undead. MrSlayer Dec 2012 #126

Each of the undead is special in his or her own way Politicub Dec 2012 #172

So basically he was Voldemort? hifiguy Dec 2012 #223

This message was self-deleted by its author backscatter712 Dec 2012 #227

J.K. Rowlng's take on a traditional lich's phylactery white_wolf Dec 2012 #248

I know what a Horcrux is, I was just wondering what Jesus would use as a Horcrux. backscatter712 Dec 2012 #255

Hmm maybe a part of the cross? white_wolf Dec 2012 #256

D'oh! I self-deleted the wrong post! backscatter712 Dec 2012 #259

The nails would be good! backscatter712 Dec 2012 #285

Voldermort was loosely based off the concept of a lich. white_wolf Dec 2012 #229

Wikipedia has a lich list pokerfan Dec 2012 #244

No. Zombies eat people. musical_soul Dec 2012 #92

And Xians eat the (symbolic) body & blood of Jeebus. stopbush Dec 2012 #257

inaccurate nobadeeftw Dec 2012 #323

It makes you wonder doesn't it? I can't wrap my head around it, but know many who do and DaniDubois Dec 2012 #5

Freaking Perfect malaise Dec 2012 #7

so much women-hating in old religions. Liberal_in_LA Dec 2012 #21

Love it! cleanhippie Dec 2012 #44

+1000000 Taverner Dec 2012 #83

That's perfect! Politicub Dec 2012 #169

Just copied and pasted (with light editing) for my FB timeline. Many coalition_unwilling Dec 2012 #331

So keep the commercial and dump the spiritual GiaGiovanni Dec 2012 #6

Sounds rather Republican, doesn't it? cordelia Dec 2012 #8

It sounds very corporate-facist, actually GiaGiovanni Dec 2012 #9

So, if Santa didn''t exist, there wouldn't be a reason to buy presents for lived ones? brooklynite Dec 2012 #265

Without Santa Claus mythology, there would be no reason for kids to have unreasonable expectations GiaGiovanni Dec 2012 #266

well actually nobadeeftw Dec 2012 #324

Yes makes you wonder who thought of it. Spiritual is not popular in our society. sabrina 1 Dec 2012 #273

Sounds Republican? Republicans are all about jesus and spirits. cleanhippie Dec 2012 #47

You can "make merry" and spend little or no money obamanut2012 Dec 2012 #11

Ah, but the Cratchit's were religious. cbayer Dec 2012 #12

Yes, they were GiaGiovanni Dec 2012 #15

There is more to the holidays than black Friday and Jesus Christ. progressoid Dec 2012 #24

The atheists who put up that sign would disagree with you GiaGiovanni Dec 2012 #29

From the posts you have made, it would seem that it is you who are not informed. cleanhippie Dec 2012 #49

Actually, the atheists who put up that sign are not informed that there is an alternative GiaGiovanni Dec 2012 #114

I really do not see what you do. cleanhippie Dec 2012 #121

You see two myths; I see two value systems. GiaGiovanni Dec 2012 #284

No, progressoid Dec 2012 #66

The "merry" on their sign is not about family, friends, or giving. It's about Santa Claus, a symbol GiaGiovanni Dec 2012 #115

Strange semiosis you have there dmallind Dec 2012 #147

The semiotics of the Coca-Cola created Santa image is very clear GiaGiovanni Dec 2012 #286

Santa is only about that if you let it liberal_at_heart Dec 2012 #292

It should be noted theKed Dec 2012 #148

The precursors to the corporate Santa did not require parents to buy tons of gifts in his name GiaGiovanni Dec 2012 #287

Uh Oh. progressoid Dec 2012 #167

You may wear whatever you wish GiaGiovanni Dec 2012 #288

Yeah, they must be idiots. Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #90

Their poster speaks their opinion. I don't have to read their minds. GiaGiovanni Dec 2012 #116

I agree. I think this billboard was not well thought out. cbayer Dec 2012 #25

It's quite simplistic in its thinking, actually GiaGiovanni Dec 2012 #31

Much better. Something like, one doesn't need christ to share the spirit cbayer Dec 2012 #38

I agree. GiaGiovanni Dec 2012 #42

Yeah, and I have some beachfront property in Nevada to sell you, too. cleanhippie Dec 2012 #50

That makes no sense GiaGiovanni Dec 2012 #117

Sure it does, it's just over your head. cleanhippie Dec 2012 #157

Ad hominem arguments don't help your case GiaGiovanni Dec 2012 #197

HA HA HA HA HA OMG LOLOLOLOL Skittles Dec 2012 #208

You're an avowed and outspoken Theist tkmorris Dec 2012 #204

I am? Wow. cbayer Dec 2012 #207

I think you've been very measured and respectful in your responses GiaGiovanni Dec 2012 #212

Thank you. And those that make assumptions about what or who I am have their cbayer Dec 2012 #214

It's not just about you, I think GiaGiovanni Dec 2012 #216

I know of what you speak. I am a hostess in the Religion group. cbayer Dec 2012 #217

Unfortunately, I think you're right GiaGiovanni Dec 2012 #221

Someone who is not a theist (an atheist or agnostic) would also be lacking in objectivity GiaGiovanni Dec 2012 #211

Sure, if you're dumb jeff47 Dec 2012 #62

^^^THIS^^^ cleanhippie Dec 2012 #113

Look at the sign itself. Their message is clear. GiaGiovanni Dec 2012 #118

Or you could actually look at the sign instead of making assumptions jeff47 Dec 2012 #134

Santa Claus as we know him is a corporate invention GiaGiovanni Dec 2012 #198

Santa Laochtine Dec 2012 #262

Christianity pre-existed Santa Claus, and unlike the American Santa, is anti-greed GiaGiovanni Dec 2012 #268

Santa Claus as you know him is a corporate invention jeff47 Dec 2012 #275

Read the history of Santa Claus in America GiaGiovanni Dec 2012 #280

Again, corporations only get to define him if you want them to. jeff47 Dec 2012 #299

Just because corporate entities have co-opted Santa doesn't mean Santa = Corporatism MessiahRp Dec 2012 #142

So... are you dumb, then?? Ghost in the Machine Dec 2012 #124

The holidays do not have to be different. jeff47 Dec 2012 #133

Santa does not automatically equal commercialism. MessiahRp Dec 2012 #145

Well, the important thing is that you figured out a way to make yourself feel superior to everyone. cleanhippie Dec 2012 #160

That's my favorite thing about the season. I don't get Politicub Dec 2012 #175

Except Santa isn't in that at all AlexSatan Dec 2012 #218

Companies abuse Santa because there's no trademark. jeff47 Dec 2012 #274

No reason except for reality AlexSatan Dec 2012 #279

According to corporations and the media jeff47 Dec 2012 #300

Really? AlexSatan Dec 2012 #303

There's a difference between expecting gifts and expect a mountain of gifts. jeff47 Dec 2012 #304

Please show me where I claimed that. AlexSatan Dec 2012 #306

Can't read your own thread responses? jeff47 Dec 2012 #308

"I apologize" would have been the correct response AlexSatan Dec 2012 #311

Not when you're the one that's wrong. jeff47 Dec 2012 #314

You claimed I said something I didn't AlexSatan Dec 2012 #315

Santa is all about sharing and helping others. Santa is a hippie. n/t Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #301

The only thing Santa does AlexSatan Dec 2012 #305

That's sharing or giving and you just didn't hang out with the right hippies, or maybe you Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #309

That spiritual part has been working so very, very well so far, too! cleanhippie Dec 2012 #46

Dump the commercial and dump the spiritual. NYC Liberal Dec 2012 #60

Asking people to dump their religion is not the answer GiaGiovanni Dec 2012 #282

Don't see how you could get that from the ad unless you were looking for it. n/t Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #125

Didn't have to look, it was there. GiaGiovanni Dec 2012 #283

Wow. I think you are projecting here. I'm not angry in the least, but you seem to be rather hostile. Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #289

I stand by my comments to you GiaGiovanni Dec 2012 #290

Well, I went back and looked at the OP, then at my reply and I still think it is you Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #291

it doesn't actually say that nt Deep13 Dec 2012 #276

I don't care whether it's 100% accurate; I love the story. Nye Bevan Dec 2012 #10

It's probably because they see so many things like this all year long DaniDubois Dec 2012 #13

OK, I never saw those billboards before, but they are just as stupid if not more so. Nye Bevan Dec 2012 #14

There are thousands of billboards just like those Mariana Dec 2012 #23

THOUSANDS? Really? Bake Dec 2012 #69

Me neither. Atheistic evangelism is obviously a bigger business than I realized (nt) Nye Bevan Dec 2012 #74

Have never seen this billboards. Where do you live? GiaGiovanni Dec 2012 #16

I live in a very conservative area Terra Alta Dec 2012 #34

That makes sense GiaGiovanni Dec 2012 #36

Even in the areas where they're relatively more common Mariana Dec 2012 #97

the funny thing is, the Christians who whine about the billboard in the first post Terra Alta Dec 2012 #20

Wow, that's fucking stupid sakabatou Dec 2012 #26

I spent a good part of 2011 as an Over The Road trucker traveling the lower 48. Never saw a single cherokeeprogressive Dec 2012 #101

If God and I are different, then a larger 'understanding' is needed for us to have a relation sanatanadharma Dec 2012 #103

Why do religious people feel threatened by atheists? Logical Dec 2012 #32

I don't. But some certainly do. Nye Bevan Dec 2012 #37

There's no need to travel all that way to find them. Mariana Dec 2012 #41

Read the sign and re-ask the question Ter Dec 2012 #65

Nobody likes being mocked or insulted. I think it's that more than pnwmom Dec 2012 #70

If you believe in mythical sky beings, prepare to be mocked LOL snooper2 Dec 2012 #140

Why do athiests feel threatened by religious people (namely Christians)? nt Skip Intro Dec 2012 #93

Because Christianity has a two thousand year history one can research. Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #146

So, in 2012, athiests fear mobs of Christians will murder them? Skip Intro Dec 2012 #193

Any question prefaced with a "So,..." creates a Straw Man. Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #200

How about a mob Laochtine Dec 2012 #264

Yes, and Stalin was a warm cuddly guy in the name of atheism. (nt) AlexSatan Dec 2012 #220

Reaction to Imperial Rule backed by the Orthodox Church. Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #242

Lots of Atheists used to be involved in the church or even ministry AlexSatan Dec 2012 #247

And you claimed he killed in the name of Atheism. That's not true. Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #249

Didn't you just say AlexSatan Dec 2012 #250

And he did the same to Marxists, supporters of Lenin, and Communist Party members. Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #252

George W. Bush is a Christian, yortsed snacilbuper Dec 2012 #254

Madelyn Murry O'Hair said it well; A HERETIC I AM Dec 2012 #258

I believe you're confusing "threatened" with "annoyed" Union Scribe Dec 2012 #237

It is from that single story that has sprung one of the most destructive forces known to humanity. cleanhippie Dec 2012 #51

Do unto others as you would have others do unto you. Nye Bevan Dec 2012 #61

Good point. randome Dec 2012 #72

"With or without religion, good people can behave well and bad people can do evil..." cleanhippie Dec 2012 #106

Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. white_wolf Dec 2012 #77

And good point. randome Dec 2012 #80

That's my problem with moderate Christianity. white_wolf Dec 2012 #81

I hear you but most do NOT accept the Bible as the word of God. randome Dec 2012 #82

But they DO accept it that way, for exactly the reasons you listed. cleanhippie Dec 2012 #108

Oh bloody hogwash - LTX Dec 2012 #162

You are entitled to your opinion, no matter how wilfully ignorant it may be. cleanhippie Dec 2012 #177

Remarkable - LTX Dec 2012 #178

Maybe not, but only because believers broke the irony meter eons ago. cleanhippie Dec 2012 #180

I don't know why that's relevant to the point, but LTX Dec 2012 #188

I am not very familiar with that. cleanhippie Dec 2012 #191

All depends on your definition of supernatural. LTX Dec 2012 #194

"A cult like devotion where one's family should be cut off if they don't believe." cherokeeprogressive Dec 2012 #102

Scary, isn't it. cleanhippie Dec 2012 #107

Zactly. We differ on which we believe is the worst though... cherokeeprogressive Dec 2012 #111

You just may be right. cleanhippie Dec 2012 #112

I've noticed that too liberal_at_heart Dec 2012 #293

Do we really need to go through the exercise where I rebut you with terrible things from the bible.. cleanhippie Dec 2012 #105

That's all well and good theKed Dec 2012 #151

None of which are original or unique to Christianity jberryhill Dec 2012 #159

You seem to be reversing cause and effect jberryhill Dec 2012 #158

This is traditionally the point where someone brings up the Crusades (nt) Nye Bevan Dec 2012 #166

While ignoring the fact that Damascus was invading Europe before the Crusades pulled them back. ieoeja Dec 2012 #183

There were no wars prior to the Crusades? jberryhill Dec 2012 #184

Organized religion, and especially christianity, has brought more death, destruction, and suffering cleanhippie Dec 2012 #174

How is your point made? jberryhill Dec 2012 #186

that is the most absurd thing I have ever read, other than that billboard nobadeeftw Dec 2012 #320

Greed and nationalism based on imaginary lines on map? LanternWaste Dec 2012 #235

Agreed ^^ nobadeeftw Dec 2012 #321

Lol. Union Scribe Dec 2012 #241

evangelizing atheism! now that's got some irony!! yawnmaster Dec 2012 #17

it's all about freedom of speech. Terra Alta Dec 2012 #22

hmmmm....if the myth is dumped as they ask, they have gained a convert! yawnmaster Dec 2012 #43

Convert to what? cleanhippie Dec 2012 #53

To atheism! there is even an organization and a website! eom yawnmaster Dec 2012 #206

! cleanhippie Dec 2012 #263

Allowed to, sure AlexSatan Dec 2012 #222

Yup. There are fundie atheists, too, pnwmom Dec 2012 #30

Well, if it makes you feel better to tell yourself that... cleanhippie Dec 2012 #54

I think you are a prime example. kwassa Dec 2012 #76

Judge not lest ye be judged? cleanhippie Dec 2012 #109

Hi. Why are you so persistently contentious, belittling and dismissive in any discussion pinto Dec 2012 #86

I know you don't. cleanhippie Dec 2012 #110

Sorry. truebluegreen Dec 2012 #63

Yeah except fundie atheists carry books and microphones. white_wolf Dec 2012 #79

lemme fix that for you theKed Dec 2012 #152

Or you can say evangelizing science... snooper2 Dec 2012 #141

huh?? your point is not clear. plus what is the spirit energy the contains atoms?? eom yawnmaster Dec 2012 #209

Why is that ironic? ieoeja Dec 2012 #185

you see, evangelism is usually equated with religion, yet this billboard is clearly... yawnmaster Dec 2012 #210

All advertising for a cause of some sort is technically evangelism. Bradical79 Dec 2012 #215

definition two below yawnmaster Dec 2012 #239

Fox News didn't like it one bit pokerfan Dec 2012 #18

Are you surprised? Terra Alta Dec 2012 #27

For some people, that's one of the benefits of being a Christian. Mariana Dec 2012 #35

This message was self-deleted by its author Nye Bevan Dec 2012 #67

Atheists wrap Anchorage buses in ads saying "Imagine no religion" Blue_In_AK Dec 2012 #19

I can imagine a world with no religion, and in it... yawnmaster Dec 2012 #48

True, but the less tools for destruction we have at our disposal, the better. cleanhippie Dec 2012 #55

it won't make any difference. The unintended consequences alone are not worth it. eom yawnmaster Dec 2012 #205

why? Enrique Dec 2012 #28

I see no reason to dump the myth theKed Dec 2012 #153

I'm not appalled by religious people believing absurd things. baldguy Dec 2012 #33

Saying Jesus doesn't exist is no more or less offensive RedCappedBandit Dec 2012 #39

This is why I don't call myself an atheist. randome Dec 2012 #52

I say I'm not a theist. Or a deist. Or a skiist. nt valerief Dec 2012 #56

What about a 'bee-ist'? What's not to like about bees? randome Dec 2012 #57

I love me some honeybees! I'm a beeist, for sure. :) valerief Dec 2012 #59

Very mean and militantly hostile for no reason Ter Dec 2012 #64

....or they made a few realize that there is, in fact, no god Taverner Dec 2012 #84

No. No they didn't. What they did do is create cordelia Dec 2012 #95

Those people were already hostile to atheists Warpy Dec 2012 #98

And this badly thought out sign is going to help? cordelia Dec 2012 #132

We can see that it revealed YOUR hostility, so it really was well thought out, wasn't it. cleanhippie Dec 2012 #165

I just object to creating churn where and when it's cordelia Dec 2012 #182

There it is! There is that christian love I hear so much about. cleanhippie Dec 2012 #190

You don't get it Warpy Dec 2012 #246

That hostility already existed. If it did anything, it pulled back the curtain on that hostility. cleanhippie Dec 2012 #164

I don't see how someone who is not hostile toward atheists would suddenly be filled with rage. Bradical79 Dec 2012 #219

Oh, I see AlexSatan Dec 2012 #224

Thing is, logically, if you spell it out, there is no god Taverner Dec 2012 #232

You belief in God or not is irrelevant AlexSatan Dec 2012 #236

I was converted to a composter because of a billboard Taverner Dec 2012 #251

you don't make someone realize there is no God anymore than Christians make people realize liberal_at_heart Dec 2012 #294

I agree. nt Skip Intro Dec 2012 #89

This atheist agrees loyalsister Dec 2012 #104

I'll Tell You Why... WiffenPoof Dec 2012 #120

there is a difference in fighting for you freedoms and trying to eradicate religion liberal_at_heart Dec 2012 #295

Here's one answer to your question Fumesucker Dec 2012 #122

Not seeing the connection to what I was talking about loyalsister Dec 2012 #149

Anything short of utter silence on the part of atheists leads to pain and defensiveness among theist Fumesucker Dec 2012 #161

Jeez loyalsister Dec 2012 #173

You know I've never knowingly met another atheist? Fumesucker Dec 2012 #230

Really? loyalsister Dec 2012 #260

talk to some young people liberal_at_heart Dec 2012 #297

"Their mythology is their business." - If that were the reality of the world, you would have a point cleanhippie Dec 2012 #168

A public she sign is directed at public consumption loyalsister Dec 2012 #201

your post is the best post of the thread liberal_at_heart Dec 2012 #296

Oh gimme a break. backscatter712 Dec 2012 #131

That's fine those fucking idiots are a dying breed... snooper2 Dec 2012 #143

"Very mean and militantly hostile" cleanhippie Dec 2012 #163

You can't see it Union Scribe Dec 2012 #243

Stop it Smalls, you're killing me!!! cleanhippie Dec 2012 #261

Of course, how could we have missed it for so long! It's the atheist's fault. Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #302

BTW the Obamas have no less than 54 Christmas Trees (not "Holiday Trees") in the White House, Nye Bevan Dec 2012 #73

Don't tell the religious right that. musical_soul Dec 2012 #94

I have heard right wingers treestar Dec 2012 #310

Well, I guess the 54 Christmas trees could be to throw us off the scent..... Nye Bevan Dec 2012 #313

Whatever. mn9driver Dec 2012 #75

As a christian I have no problem with this board. The locals complaining should spend their time hrmjustin Dec 2012 #78

I wish I could rec this post Marrah_G Dec 2012 #135

Isn't the Crucifixtion more of an Easter thing? Bok_Tukalo Dec 2012 #85

It would, but people view the Nativity scene with such affection that Nye Bevan Dec 2012 #88

There's a parade where I live close to Thanksgiving and Easter. musical_soul Dec 2012 #99

Ermmm.. have you seen where atheists rank in tests of religious knowledge? dmallind Dec 2012 #150

god, protect me from your followers! yortsed snacilbuper Dec 2012 #87

Isn't it funny..... musical_soul Dec 2012 #91

Few adults base their political opinions on a profound belief in Santa Claus Fumesucker Dec 2012 #123

The difference is one is a fairy tale people know is made up, the other fairy tale snooper2 Dec 2012 #144

How many laws have been Laochtine Dec 2012 #267

Is this really the most positive message? SpartanDem Dec 2012 #96

Some group ran that kind of ad on buses Mariana Dec 2012 #100

Oh the horror!! The poor Christians must feel so put-upon. gtar100 Dec 2012 #119

Oh my, how sensitive the fantasy believers are. Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #127

Santa is weird choice for the first pic, because Santa is a myth. nt ZombieHorde Dec 2012 #128

Good Evidence That Jesus Was A Myth Created By The Romans cantbeserious Dec 2012 #129

I have no problem with the board but why feed the idiots at FOX? gordianot Dec 2012 #130

Post removed Post removed Dec 2012 #136

Ah, capitalism gollygee Dec 2012 #137

Everyone has "myths," even atheists. Not polite to rub it in people's faces. yellowcanine Dec 2012 #138

Really? Like what? What myths do atheists share? cleanhippie Dec 2012 #170

Not saying atheists share the same myths. How did you get that? yellowcanine Dec 2012 #199

That they're smarter than everyone else, for starters. Union Scribe Dec 2012 #238

The myth is the date, place and holiday. mmonk Dec 2012 #139

What evidence is that? apart from the Bible that is? hobbit709 Dec 2012 #154

Here are some links. Mind you, the historical Jesus was just a person, not a god. mmonk Dec 2012 #179

I tend to lean towards him existing, but the links are pretty worthless on their own. Bradical79 Dec 2012 #231

no evidence what so ever that he was some sort of magical being...... bowens43 Dec 2012 #155

This is true. I did not claim there was. mmonk Dec 2012 #156

The date, place, holiday, miracles, words he supposedly said... Bradical79 Dec 2012 #225

Words that contradict the message or are problematic mmonk Dec 2012 #228

Not sure I understand Bradical79 Dec 2012 #233

The Gospels, letters, etc. have many mmonk Dec 2012 #245

There is? Can you point me to where I might see this ecidence for myself? cleanhippie Dec 2012 #171

Here ya go. Nye Bevan Dec 2012 #181

. cleanhippie Dec 2012 #189

More (actual books as opposed to the internet)...... Nye Bevan Dec 2012 #192

They all use the bible as a source. cleanhippie Dec 2012 #269

Amongst historians, the Bible is considered a valid secondary source.... LanternWaste Dec 2012 #271

I would challenge any historian that used the bible as a valid source to support an assertion cleanhippie Dec 2012 #278

That's a false conclusion nobadeeftw Dec 2012 #328

It's not just bible sources there are Roman historial SpartanDem Dec 2012 #312

Christians will point to the Annals by Tacitus. yortsed snacilbuper Dec 2012 #317

+infinity! cleanhippie Dec 2012 #319

This is why atheists continue to have an image problem. Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2012 #176

Point taken nobadeeftw Dec 2012 #326

So only religious people should advertise their beliefs but atheists should never speak up? Arugula Latte Dec 2012 #333

Score one for the good guys! datasuspect Dec 2012 #187

Do they have one for Hanukkah as well? Or are they afraid of Israel? The Straight Story Dec 2012 #195

Judah Macabee was arguably a violent extremist, but he likely had an objective historical existence. Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #203

Why? mmonk Dec 2012 #213

I like truth in advertising moobu2 Dec 2012 #196

ZOMG!!! TEH FIEEEENDS! ZOMG O NO Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #202

The money for that billboard could have gone to the Atheist soup kitchens, AlexSatan Dec 2012 #226

Lol. Union Scribe Dec 2012 #240

There certainly are a lot of people telling me how best to celebrate a holiday... LanternWaste Dec 2012 #234

'atheists' who would bother to spend the money for this aren't really atheists. IOW: "Who cares?" Bill USA Dec 2012 #253

no true scotsman nt Deep13 Dec 2012 #277

It would be nice to define one's own beliefs without dumping on someone elses Matariki Dec 2012 #270

What about church signs that tell us we're going to burn if we don't believe? Arugula Latte Dec 2012 #316

Those are so common, they don't attract much attention. Mariana Dec 2012 #318

Are you five years old? SpartanDem Dec 2012 #322

You know what? I'm nearly 50, and I've been hearing neverending noise about how "GOD IS REAL" Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #329

I'm just pointing out that there is poutrage over one sign in NYC Arugula Latte Dec 2012 #332

What if somebody put up a billboard saying Santa Claus wasn't real? undeterred Dec 2012 #272

I prefer the Good without God signs liberal_at_heart Dec 2012 #281

Christianity has survived a lot more than silly signs. Zax2me Dec 2012 #298

Too bad that can't be said for so many other religions and their practitioners that xtianity Egalitarian Thug Dec 2012 #307

True nobadeeftw Dec 2012 #325

Right, and no one ever tells them to shut up. Arugula Latte Dec 2012 #334

TEH FIENDS!~!!!! Warren DeMontague Dec 2012 #330

I wonder if Joe McDonald knows about this one? yortsed snacilbuper Dec 2012 #335