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In reply to the discussion: Robber killed in SC Waffle House shooting by customer [View all]spin
(17,493 posts)50. Have you ever heard of the femoral artery? ...
Schema of femoral artery (labeled as #20) and its major branches - right thigh, anterior view.
Marysville security guard dies of gunshot wound Sept. 25
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Lamoureux noted that the current theory is that, after the end of his shift that evening, the man accidentally shot himself with the 9-millimeter handgun that he carried in his briefcase. From there, the bullet severed his femoral artery and he bled to death.
"It fits the angle of the bullet," Lamoureux said. "When the femoral artery is punctured or severed, you lose consciousness within 30 seconds and bleed to death within a couple of minutes. When the man was found, he had his cell phone on the seat between his legs and the number 9 was up, indicating that he'd tried to dial 911. If you bleed out that fast, that's not even enough time for an aid car to reach you."
http://www.marysvilleglobe.com/news/103961214.html
The Myth
Since I don't want to kill anyone, I could just shoot an attacker in the arm or leg instead of shooting him in the torso or head. That wouldn't be using deadly force since I wouldn't want to kill him.
The Reality:
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Shooting an attacker in self-defense is an intentional use of force. Shooting someone often causes serious physical injury, no matter where the bullet lands. Even if the shot only hits an arm or a leg, the attacker could easily die from shock or blood loss. That is why shooting someone in the arm or leg is, legally speaking, every bit as serious as if you deliberately shot them right through the heart.
Legally, there is no such thing as shooting someone without using deadly force.
http://corneredcat.com/Myths_About_SelfDefense/
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"Wise criminals who rob and pillage .. practice their profession in cities like New York or Chicago"
marmar
Jan 2012
#31
There was a chance it could have gone a lot of ways, which would you prefer
The Straight Story
Jan 2012
#9
I prefer the way in which no one is shot and killed - be it employee, customer or robber.
LonePirate
Jan 2012
#28
Generally someone with a concealed carry permit is well trained and has spent a lot of time on the
Snake Alchemist
Jan 2012
#10
Anyone stupid nough to rob customers in a restaurant, should be confronted by Samuel L jackson and
WingDinger
Jan 2012
#8
I agree. He should have waited until after the robber killed or at least wounded someone. nt
Snake Alchemist
Jan 2012
#17
How could you have shot him if you were unarmed? With your finger gun?
cherokeeprogressive
Jan 2012
#51
"The instinct to protect oneself is often muddled by a thirst to kill"
ProgressiveProfessor
Jan 2012
#86
LOL......tell that to the people killed in armed robbery's every year. Get a clue!
Logical
Jan 2012
#26
The cited article was clear the perp was shot after he pointed the weapon...clear endangerment
ProgressiveProfessor
Jan 2012
#29
"having a gun waved at them isn't necessarily that big a threat" oh ya, that's a classic :-)
crazyjoe
Jan 2012
#72
Celebrating that the non-criminals are alive and well is certainly justified.
PavePusher
Jan 2012
#71
If you don't like the celebration of his death, there's a simple solution. Don't celebrate.
Jean V. Dubois
Jan 2012
#77
Which. despite the gnashing of teeth and wailing of the gun grabbbers, is the point of CCW.
Edweird
Jan 2012
#58
As stupid as robbers can be, most know the PO is a federal crime, not a local or state one.
HopeHoops
Jan 2012
#94