Alarms Go Off as Obama Plays Footsie with Raising Medicare Age

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83. you are playing some kind of con here. It's sad.

I'm not 'greasing' anything. I though we were talking about reality. What has the President proposed. Not the rumors. What has he actually included in his budget proposals?

Moreover, what is the state of the debate over these programs. there isn't some iron wall against reforming the delivery system. For instance, if you want to argue from the Romney camp's perspective, I guess you can call the Medicare requirements to providers that the president supported and signed into law, 'cuts to Medicare.'

That's the kind of slippery slope you're heading down here, Doctor_J, when you project the worst of your imagination on my observation that the state of debate from most Democratic quarters is a defense against beneficiary cuts. You can distort that to your hearts' desire. It only serves to further cheapen the discussion on this sordid thread.