On liberal "purity".

[sabrina 1]

138. I don't disagree with anything you said. I think there is a lot of shouting past each other

also. There has been a lot of propaganda in this country trying to convince people that progressive ideas are not popular and that the Dem Party needs to swing to the right in order to win. But polls show that this is not the case.

Eg, right now on their website, the Third Way is claiming that they are responsible for the Dems winning in this election. They claim that the Dem Party needed to 'move to the right' on foreign policy and on economics in order to win. Nothing could be further from the truth. People voted for Progressive Dems in spite of the Third Way and the Right because they support progressive policies. They also are responsible for the persistent lie that it was Progressives who lost the 2010 election, despite the fact that Progressive candidates mostly won while it was their own Blue Dogs who lost and that Progressives did vote, it was Independents who stayed home.

To combat the propaganda that Progressive ideas are 'retarded' our side needs to talk about ISSUES rather than always reacting to the right wing propaganda that is so pervasive in this country. If we spent as much time and money talking about how effective Dem policies are instead of always reacting to the negative propaganda, and then fighting among ourselves, we would be far better off.

I also talk to people in the RL and it is amazing sometimes how uninformed many of them are mainly because they have bought into the MSM and Fox trashing of the 'left'. But if you ask them 'do you think we should get rid of SS, Medicare and Medicaid, eg, I have not yet met anyone who wants to do that, right or left.

Dems have not been good at framing the issues for some reason. They are not strong enough on combatting the lies told by Republicans and that leaves people who are not political junkies hearing only one side.

Anyhow, thanks for your comment and sorry if I misunderstood you.