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Ndp5

(100 posts)
32. Defeatist and ignores a ton of counter evidence
Fri Nov 15, 2024, 12:02 AM
Nov 2024

There was a poll conducted in the run-up to the election in which policies were stripped of their candidates and presented to voters on a level playing field. And Harris’s policies were drastically more popular than Trump’s.

Economic elites have spent decades and a lot of money redirecting populist anger from the top 1% to cultural elites, such as academics, TV pundits and other celebrities. And those cultural elites have helped them do it by being in many cases genuinely elitist, snotty and out-of-touch. Democrats are undeniably the party of the cultural elites. And people who are hurting economically distrust them for it.

Democrats also have failed to truly take on wealthy special interests in our society, and now they’re paying the price for it.

I’ve known enough low-information or brainwashed voters to know that the defeatism you’re spouting would warm the cold hearts of their manipulators: Rupert Murdoch, Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk and others like them, who are now feathering their own nests off the successful leveraging of half the country’s civic disengagement and impotent anger.

Giving in to autocracy is not only the easy way out. It is the blinkered way out, because it ignores all the information about how this happened and the possible remedies that flow from it.

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Really bad when Center is now to the right of Ronald Reagan. LiberalArkie Nov 2024 #1
The majority of Americans support most left of Center policies Fiendish Thingy Nov 2024 #2
Talk is cheap. I would tell those Americans to Ninga Nov 2024 #5
They don't vote for policies, they vote their political identity. Nt Fiendish Thingy Nov 2024 #14
Bingo wryter2000 Nov 2024 #30
that is the way I understand it. Also, I doubt most Americans rurallib Nov 2024 #7
They support it when it benefits them dansolo Nov 2024 #20
Or even the center. kentuck Nov 2024 #3
This had nothing to do with agendas or policies. Scrivener7 Nov 2024 #4
That Biden would have done much worse than Harris, is a bit inconvenient to this argument. tritsofme Nov 2024 #16
OK. Add middle-aged. Scrivener7 Nov 2024 #19
What is this "America" that doesn't want these things? Ocelot II Nov 2024 #6
More than half, if we listen to what people say they want. Think. Again. Nov 2024 #12
Spot On Marigold Nov 2024 #8
Here's why. Ping Tung Nov 2024 #9
They might be the next billionaire Blue Full Moon Nov 2024 #22
I personally don't think people realized what they were voting for and will come to regret it. ratchiweenie Nov 2024 #10
I think you're confusing what Americans DO want... Think. Again. Nov 2024 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author dalton99a Nov 2024 #13
Could not agree more. BannonsLiver Nov 2024 #17
+100 nt WarGamer Nov 2024 #33
Yes, let's cut loose the unpopular cultural issues on the national level? Ilikepurple Dec 2024 #40
I think most people just want to live their lives. thatdemguy Nov 2024 #15
Liberal-libertarians is what Americans are Deminpenn Nov 2024 #39
Reproductive rights a bi-partisan issue GoreWon2000 Nov 2024 #18
America is very left LiberaBlueDem Nov 2024 #21
Not my America. milestogo Nov 2024 #23
Most people are left of center. Blue Full Moon Nov 2024 #24
The misogyny is deep here Meowmee Nov 2024 #25
As others have pointed out, I'm not sure this is the correct analysis. Music Man Nov 2024 #26
Nah, America is clueless about what it wants or where center is. RockRaven Nov 2024 #27
It could be that they say "yes" because it's more PC, but when push comes to shove, they don't care about them DSandra Nov 2024 #28
Since when is supporting abortion rights. equal treatments of all, decent jobs and pay is "left of center?" question everything Nov 2024 #29
Please don't echo right wing framing of what "left of center" means LearnedHand Nov 2024 #36
Clearly BigMin28 Nov 2024 #31
Defeatist and ignores a ton of counter evidence Ndp5 Nov 2024 #32
Those darn liberals....conservatives define "liberal" as anyone who is not their idea of conservative. walkingman Nov 2024 #34
I think people want to be left of center. They don't want to be Democrats. They vote for left-of-center policy, when In It to Win It Nov 2024 #35
Umm, who exactly is there who is left of center in U.S. elections? DJ Synikus Makisimus Nov 2024 #37
Sorry to say this but there is no center left major party. Nt. Voltaire2 Nov 2024 #38
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